[Vision2020] HR 3855

[Phil Nisbet]

Mark

For every acre of State management failure you can cite, I can list ten 
acres of Forest Service mismanagement.  Trashing either agency seems like a 
waste of time to me.

I am not suggesting as some did in the days gone by that we turn all Forest 
and BLM land over to state management, I am suggesting that some of the 
Federal lands should be transfered to State ownership to allow us to have 
better education funding.

Hey, tell you what, earmark the resulting funds for purchase of lands East 
of the Mississippi and let them get representation of that ecosystem type 
into the National Inventory.  Because if having National ownership is so 
very important, than the folks who want to preserve nature back easst should 
be ready and willing to give up some of their tax base to what should be a 
National goal rather than simply one shoulder by people here.

Phil


>From: Mark Solomon <msolomon at moscow.com>
>To: "Phil Nisbet" <pcnisbet1 at hotmail.com>, mushroom at moscow.com
>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] HR 3855
>Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 22:15:27 -0800
>
>Phil,
>
>Here's a link to a satellite image of the Floodwood State "Forest", fifty 
>scant air miles from Moscow. Forest is in quotes because as is seen in the 
>image: there are no trees. And don't even think about trying the line "the 
>trees are regenerating/replanting and just aren't visible yet". A tree farm 
>is not a forest.
>
>Oh yeah.. the ground just to the west that has also been hammered is 
>Potlatch land. All used to be part of the public domain.
>
>http://maps.google.com/?t=h&ll=46.916503,-115.922241&spn=0.118428,0.225563&t=h
>
>This next link is a closeup of the remains of the "Land Board State Park" 
>in the middle of the Floodwood. Once a sanctuary of ancient cedars it is 
>now a doomed island in a clearcut sea.
>
>http://maps.google.com/?t=h&ll=46.902255,-115.899067&spn=0.007404,0.014098&t=h
>
>Mark Solomon
>
>At 7:49 PM -0800 1/7/06, Phil Nisbet wrote:
>>Don
>>
>>Can you sing?  I am thinking of a Ren and Stimpy tune that my boys taught 
>>me.
>>
>>The IDL has managed less than 10% of the public lands in the state of 
>>Idaho and you make the BS claim that IDL is responsible for the most 
>>egerious errors in Land Management?   Care to back up your claim with 
>>anything other than hot air?
>>
>>Phil Nisbet
>>
>>>From: Don Coombs <mushroom at moscow.com>
>>>Reply-To: mushroom at moscow.com
>>>To: "'Moscow Vision 2020'" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] HR 3855
>>>Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 15:25:45 -0800
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Tom Hansen wrote:
>>>  I am all in favor of keeping public lands public.
>>>>
>>>>Once these forest lands are auctioned off to private interests, a mortal
>>>>person's imagination will not even be able to conceive the size of the 
>>>>next
>>>>WalMart Super Center in Idaho.
>>>>
>>>>I strongly support Idaho BLM acquiring these lands.  The lands will 
>>>>remain
>>>>environmentally managed and Idaho realizes revenue in the process.
>>>
>>>I assume you mean IDL (Idaho Department of Lands) rather than Idaho BLM. 
>>>(The Bureau of Land Management is, of course, a federal agency.)
>>>
>>>Under IDL, the lands will not exactly be environmentally managed. The 
>>>state consitution requires IDL to manage with only timber revenue in 
>>>mind, and yes, that revenue does go to schools. But there is a huge 
>>>difference between managing for multi-use (including recreation) and just 
>>>cutting everything cuttable.
>>>
>>>Some of the most egregious land management in the past century is a 
>>>result of IDL decisions.
>>>
>>>Don Coombs
>>>
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