[Vision2020] HR 3855

[Reynolds, James]

Thank you Mark, for bringing the Floodwoods to Phil's attention. I have logged State, Federal and private grounds throughout Northern and Central Idaho. With a few acceptions from licquidating private owners, the State Forest ground was always the worst managed. The Floodwood area from Clarkia back to the resevoir is a sad one indeed from the perspective of multiple use management and the State led the charge in the destruction. The USFS at least gives lip service to other uses. In 1990 I worked on one of the last of the big cedar cites back there. Fourteen foot diameter Cedars and five foot through White pines 250 feet tall were the norm on that state sale; one of the last of the big-tree sales from there. Some of the older loggers told a story of a dark primeval forest that canopied the roads all the way through from Clarkia to the river. Gone now isn't it.
 
Jim Reynolds
Moscow

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From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com on behalf of Mark Solomon
Sent: Sat 1/7/2006 10:15 PM
To: Phil Nisbet; mushroom at moscow.com
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] HR 3855



Phil,

Here's a link to a satellite image of the
Floodwood State "Forest", fifty scant air miles
from Moscow. Forest is in quotes because as is
seen in the image: there are no trees. And don't
even think about trying the line "the trees are
regenerating/replanting and just aren't visible
yet". A tree farm is not a forest.

Oh yeah.. the ground just to the west that has
also been hammered is Potlatch land. All used to
be part of the public domain.

http://maps.google.com/?t=h&ll=46.916503,-115.922241&spn=0.118428,0.225563&t=h

This next link is a closeup of the remains of the
"Land Board State Park" in the middle of the
Floodwood. Once a sanctuary of ancient cedars it
is now a doomed island in a clearcut sea.

http://maps.google.com/?t=h&ll=46.902255,-115.899067&spn=0.007404,0.014098&t=h

Mark Solomon

At 7:49 PM -0800 1/7/06, Phil Nisbet wrote:
>Don
>
>Can you sing?  I am thinking of a Ren and Stimpy tune that my boys taught me.
>
>The IDL has managed less than 10% of the public
>lands in the state of Idaho and you make the BS
>claim that IDL is responsible for the most
>egerious errors in Land Management?   Care to
>back up your claim with anything other than hot
>air?
>
>Phil Nisbet
>
>>From: Don Coombs <mushroom at moscow.com>
>>Reply-To: mushroom at moscow.com
>>To: "'Moscow Vision 2020'" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] HR 3855
>>Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 15:25:45 -0800
>>
>>
>>
>>Tom Hansen wrote:
>>  I am all in favor of keeping public lands public.
>>>
>>>Once these forest lands are auctioned off to private interests, a mortal
>>>person's imagination will not even be able to conceive the size of the next
>>>WalMart Super Center in Idaho.
>>>
>>>I strongly support Idaho BLM acquiring these lands.  The lands will remain
>>>environmentally managed and Idaho realizes revenue in the process.
>>
>>I assume you mean IDL (Idaho Department of
>>Lands) rather than Idaho BLM. (The Bureau of
>>Land Management is, of course, a federal
>>agency.)
>>
>>Under IDL, the lands will not exactly be
>>environmentally managed. The state consitution
>>requires IDL to manage with only timber revenue
>>in mind, and yes, that revenue does go to
>>schools. But there is a huge difference between
>>managing for multi-use (including recreation)
>>and just cutting everything cuttable.
>>
>>Some of the most egregious land management in
>>the past century is a result of IDL decisions.
>>
>>Don Coombs
>>
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