[Vision2020] whoa nellie !!!!

[Scott Dredge]

Paul wrote:
<I'm sure this is all about image and showing everyone that the NBA is on the "right side" of this issue, knowing that the public will forget all about it next week.>

The not so funny thing is that the NBA isn't on the 'right side' if this issue. They're only doing what's in the best 'public relations' for the NBA which is issuing a strong rebuke against some of what Sterling said in private. What is being completely ignored is the whole 'culture of racism'.

From what little I can piece together from a long tape, it seems that his trophy girlfriend posted a picture of herself with Magic Johnson on Instagram and one (or more) of his friends saw it and called him to tell him something to the effect that he had an '<expletive> loving girlfriend'. This by itself didn't bother him, he just didn't want her advertising this in public. He told her he didn't mind if she loved blacks in private. He told he he was fine if she slept with them. He just didn't want her posting photos of herself with them and he didn't want her bringing them to the games. Why? Because he thinks that his friends would be disapproving of him dating a woman who cavorts with blacks.  It's one thing he's just imagining that his friends are racist. It's whole different ball of wax if the rich and powerful elitists he hangs with are also racists. Banning Sterling does little about the latter. 


-Scott

> On Apr 29, 2014, at 6:39 PM, "Paul Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> On 04/29/2014 05:05 PM, Scott Dredge wrote:
>> Rose
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>> Paul didn't invoke 'free spech', Sue did so maybe you should be berating her instead.  Paul was just asking if the NBA levying their maximum penalty of lifetime ban + $2.5 million fine was over top and was he the only one who wasn't shocked by Sterling's alleged racist sound bites.  Paul also is not too fond that 'we have become a nation of nittering ninnies'.
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>> I myself am unsure of what a 'nittering ninny' is, but I'm not that thrilled that about the knee jerk emotional reactions on a wide variety of issues that occur several times per month.
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> "nattering": talk casually, especially about unimportant matters; chatter.
> "ninny": (short for "nincompoop") a foolish person.
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> I was picturing a bunch of grandmas with their knitting needles and their bifocals looking utterly horrified that someone actually said something bad about black people in private, and earnestly conversing about it.
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>> FWIW, I don't think the punishment meted out by the NBA is 'over the top', but I'm skeptical that it's being done based on principle as opposed to being done as a Public Relations stunt in attempt to shield the NBA itself from being soft on racism.  Sterling has been a known racist for decades and that hasn't been a problem because it was contained and no one was protesting it.  Now that we're in the brave new world or social media, it's easier for the mob to grab their virtual pitchforks and torches and chase unpolitically correct types back under the rocks from which they crawled from under.
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>> BTW, what's the qualification for being a member of the 'good guys'?  Siding with the mob?  If so, I'll pass.  I'll just come to my own belated decision on this based on all the facts of the case at hand.  So far I haven't see a full transcript of the taped conversation and haven't been able to find one online.  My sense is that this whole blown out of proportion story follows the script of 'image is everything' from Sterling wanting a hot chick sitting next to him to improve his image, to Sterling not wanting black people around his hot chick because he thought (for some odd reason) that would hurt her image and his image, to the NBA dishing out punishment to Sterling to protect their own image.
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> I ran into the sub-titled recording on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhT6d5fMhzI
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> I'm sure this is all about image and showing everyone that the NBA is on the "right side" of this issue, knowing that the public will forget all about it next week.
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>> Meanwhile everyone want to just sweep a small problem (Sterling) under the rug and do very little about the larger problem of racism and discrimination in general.
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>> -Scott
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>> From: donaldrose at cpcinternet.com
>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 16:03:49 -0700
>> Subject: [Vision2020] whoa nellie !!!!
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>> Donald Sterling (an assumed name by the way since his birth name didn’t suit him which is disgusting in itself) is a  jaw sagging, age bespeckled, whore mongering, adultery committing, billionaire who is also a racist.  Except for the billionaire part these kind of jackasses are thick on the ground, and if you don’t think so, Paul you don’t around enough.  Probably none of the above is a crime,  although adultery might be in some states.  The NBA put up with his disgusting behavior – which was well documented – for thirty years.  Eventually, the NBA was placed in the position of having to do something.  (reread the second sentence Paul).  I am delighted they popped his sorry ass.  And, it sure as hell isn’t a privacy issue because girl friend shared the tape.  Guess, we can just call it a pretty spectacular lesson on the importance of discretion.   
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>> This isn’t a free speech issue Paul,               no matter how you’d like it to be. It just kills me that you strain at a gnat and swallow a camel.  Why don’t you surprise us sometime and line up behind the good guys for a change?
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>> From: donaldrose at cpcinternet.com
>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 16:03:49 -0700
>> Subject: [Vision2020] whoa nellie !!!!
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>> Donald Sterling (an assumed name by the way since his birth name didn’t suit him which is disgusting in itself) is a  jaw sagging, age bespeckled, whore mongering, adultery committing, billionaire who is also a racist.  Except for the billionaire part these kind of jackasses are thick on the ground, and if you don’t think so, Paul you don’t around enough.  Probably none of the above is a crime,  although adultery might be in some states.  The NBA put up with his disgusting behavior – which was well documented – for thirty years.  Eventually, the NBA was placed in the position of having to do something.  (reread the second sentence Paul).  I am delighted they popped his sorry ass.  And, it sure as hell isn’t a privacy issue because girl friend shared the tape.  Guess, we can just call it a pretty spectacular lesson on the importance of discretion.   
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>> This isn’t a free speech issue Paul,               no matter how you’d like it to be. It just kills me that you strain at a gnat and swallow a camel.  Why don’t you surprise us sometime and line up behind the good guys for a change?
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