[Vision2020] Fw: People with opposite outlooks.

[Jay Borden]

This is too hilarious.  

I don't care to reach down into the bowels of any of these points... I
choose instead to point out the bigger picture.

It wasn't too many days ago that someone sent around a very liberal
"Ideas for a Republican Haunted House"... and I don't remember any angry
emails coming out from persons with their underwear in a snit and their
egos on their sleeves.  

But... an email shows up that attempts to show a *conservative* point of
view through humorous analogy... and suddenly the spittle flies.

Just sayin'.


Jay


-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of
nickgier at roadrunner.com
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 11:15 AM
To: vision2020 at moscow.com; lfalen
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: People with opposite outlooks.

Hi Roger,

This is a piece of crap.  Name one "liberal" who takes these positions
except for the logical position taken by all those who study insurance:
the larger the pool, the less risk, and the less cost to those who are
insured.  I'm sure you are in favor of compulsory car insurance aren't
you?  Even most conservative jurists believe that the individual health
insurance mandate is not unconstitutional.

The conservative position on health insurance has made our system the
most costly in the world and least effective improving national health.
I'm sure that everyone who like to get a job with health coverage but
they are getting more and more difficult to find, or the premiums are
outrageously high.

Those nations who distribute wealth fairly are those countries who are
tops in at least nine social and health issues, as well as producing
prosperous economies.  Even when Ireland and Greece are included the
budget deficits for those on the Euro are an average of 4.2 percent.
Taking Ireland, Greece, and Spain (whose banks loaned with abandon) out
of the data, the EuroZone unemployment rate is about 6 percent.
Distributing the wealth Germany created jobs all throughout the Great
Recession and the fastest growing economy in Europe is Sweden, the most
wealth distributing nation in the world.  The conservative/ libertarian
position, as I have argued for years, simply is not based on economic,
social, and health facts.

By the way, I believe in meritocracy.  I earned by 3.88 at Oregon State
and I earned my full professorship at UI.  The egalitarian position is
not that everyone should earn the same salary regardless; rather, it is
the position that those who do succeed have an obligation to help those,
who for reasons usually beyond their control, cannot.

You yourself believe that Veterans should get government aid, but how
about single moms and those who suffer illnesses or accidents from which
they obviously were not responsible?

Yours for a free but more equal society,

Nick



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>               This has been around before, but I still think it's
worth reading again.
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>                     A rather gentle explanation of the difference in
thinking between people with opposite outlooks.
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>                     A young woman was about to finish her first year
of college. Like so many others her age, she considered herself to be
very liberal, and among other liberal ideals, was very much in favor of
higher taxes to support more government programs, in other words
redistribution of wealth.
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>                     She was deeply ashamed that her father was a
rather staunch conservative, a feeling she openly expressed. Based on
the lectures that she had participated in, and the occasional chat with
a professor, she felt that her father had for years harbored an evil,
selfish desire to keep what he thought should be his.
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>                     One day she was challenging her father on his
opposition to higher taxes on the rich and the need for more government
programs.
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>                     The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her
professors had to be the truth and she indicated so to her father. He
responded by asking how she was doing in school.
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>                     Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily that
she had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain,
insisting that she was taking a very difficult course load and was
constantly studying, which left her no time to go out and party like
other people she knew. She didn't even have time for a boyfriend, and
didn't really have many college friends because she spent all her time
studying.
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>                     Her father listened and then asked, "How is your
friend Audrey doing?"
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>                     She replied, "Audrey is barely getting by. All she
takes are easy classes, she never studies and she barely has a 2.0 GPA.
She is so popular on campus; college for her is a blast. She's always
invited to all the parties and lots of times she doesn't even show up
for classes because she's too hung over."
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>                     Her wise father asked his daughter, "Why don't you
go to the Dean's office and ask him to deduct 1.0 off your GPA and give
it to your friend who only has a 2.0. That way you will both have a 3.0
GPA and certainly that would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA."
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>                     The daughter, visibly shocked by her father's
suggestion, angrily fired back, "That's a crazy idea, how would that be
fair! I've worked really hard for my grades! I've invested a lot of
time, and a lot of hard work! Audrey has done next to nothing toward her
degree. She played while I worked my tail off!"
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>                     The father slowly smiled, winked and said gently,
"Welcome to the conservative side of the fence."
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>                     If you ever wondered what side of the fence you
sit on, this is a great test!
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>                     If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't
buy one.
>                     If a liberal doesn't like guns, he wants all guns
outlawed.
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>                     If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat
meat.
>                     If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat
products banned for everyone.
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>                     If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about
how to better his situation.
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him.
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>                     If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host,
he switches channels.
>                     Liberals demand that those they don't like be shut
down.
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>                     If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go
to church.
>                     A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God
and Jesus silenced.
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>                     If a conservative decides he needs health care, he
goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it.
>                     A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.
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>                     If a conservative reads this, he'll forward it so
his friends can have a good laugh.
>                     A liberal will delete it because he's "offended."
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>                     Well, I forwarded it to you. 
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