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[lfalen]

I think that you are one of the most reasonable people who post here and I agree with about 90% of your posts.
Roger
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From: Paul Rumelhart godshatter at yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:50:07 -0800
To: Andreas Schou ophite at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)

> 
> I tend to annoy everybody, I think.  It's a special trait of mine.
> 
> I haven't met very many people on the list in real life.  I know Sue 
> Hovey, I've met Nick Gier, and I've talked to Keely on the phone.
> 
> I miss some of the old-timers that haven't been around in a while.  Is 
> Chasuk still around somewhere?  There have been periods of time where I 
> haven't followed the list as much as I'd like, so maybe I just haven't 
> seen his posts.
> 
> Although Ted and I are constantly beating our heads against each other, 
> I respect his character and can confidently say that he's a principled 
> person who cares deeply about the environment.  Nothing wrong with 
> that.  As I tend to get a bit snarky in my responses far too regularly, 
> I apologize to him now for the many sarcastic and unfriendly remarks 
> I've made over the years.
> 
> I've talked with Gary both on and off the list (a few times, anyway) and 
> find him to be a good guy.  He calls them like he sees them, and I 
> respect that.  My path over the last few years is one of realizing that 
> even people you differ with have important things to say and that 
> everything is not so black and white as people try to make it appear.  
> My opinion of Gary has changed for the better since I've interacted with 
> him, and that can only be a good sign.
> 
> Apart from the last few weeks, I haven't interacted with Joe that much, 
> but I appreciate the civil discourse we've had, even though we both 
> probably shriek at the walls various unflattering remarks about each 
> other after a long back-and-forth.  He's an intelligent guy, and he also 
> calls 'em like he sees 'em, too.  That's a good thing.
> 
> I've had some good conversations with Donovan, and find him to be a nice 
> guy.
> 
> Andreas is one of the more reasonable posters on the list, I enjoy his 
> posts when I see them.  He seems level-headed and intelligent and wise, 
> really.
> 
> I enjoy Tom's humorous posts, and appreciate the work he does for the 
> community.  I'm not as big a fan of cats as he is, though.  Don't hate 
> them, mind you, but I'm not as enamored of them.
> 
> I enjoy Keely's posts, even though we often disagree about some things.  
> I also enjoy Nicks posts, they are very thought-provoking.  There are 
> lots of others I'm missing, I'm sure.  Reggie, Roger, Wayne, Jeff, Dan, 
> Dave, Deb, and others.  All of them nice people who think I'm a fruitcake ;)
> 
> It certainly doesn't hurt to take a break from the mud-slinging and to 
> realize that real people actually exist behind their on-line personas.  
> This list is an enigma.  It's full of generally nice people who like to 
> yell at each other all the time.  It must be the dehumanizing properties 
> of the email medium, I guess.
> 
> Ah well, back to the mudslinging, I say!
> 
> Paul
> 
> Andreas Schou wrote:
> > Gary's one of a very small number of conservative commentators that
> > I've managed to read consistently since I first became politically
> > aware. In part, this may be due to the fact that he is one of a very
> > small number of conservative commentators whom I may annoy precisely
> > as much as he annoys me. But, even where I think he's wrong, he's at
> > least responsive.
> >
> > He's also a damn good locksmith and, as far as I've heard and
> > experienced, a decent human. I only disagree with him about matters of
> > life, death, and whether and how the government should acquire and
> > spend trillions of dollars. Other than that, we're cool. And he's not
> > the only conservative here that's made a positive contribution to the
> > community.
> >
> > Many of you know my wife had a brain tumor a couple of years ago and
> > nearly died. I was in Seattle for most of the relevant period, but I
> > received an unsolicited offer from Doug Farris to bring over
> > casseroles and whatnot. I couldn't take him up on it (because I
> > suspect his offer didn't extend to driving the casseroles to Seattle),
> > but I appreciated it more than he knows. And I was genuinely sorry to
> > hear that Pat Kraut died; in all of my professional dealings with her,
> > through the Nazarene church, she genuinely enacted the charitable
> > values we so vehemently disagreed about  the government enacting.
> >
> > I don't know the rest of the conservatives here as well. Glenn isn't a
> > real person (though I once had a perfectly civil lunch with the person
> > I believe he is). Donovan Arnold probably wouldn't kick a puppy unless
> > the puppy really had it coming. Jeff Harkins is sometimes genuinely
> > helpful, and bright and dedicated, if sometimes glib.
> >
> > I realize that it'll soon be time to get back to shouting at each
> > other. As we should. Isn't that why we're all here? (Maybe not Paul.
> > He doesn't seem like a crank. I mean that as a compliment.) But in the
> > spirit Dear Leader proposes, I think taking a moment to appreciate the
> > people we will soon be throwing rotten fruit at seems appropriate.
> >
> > -- ACS
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