[Vision2020] More Evangelical Christians are Getting It

[Donovan Arnold]

I'm curious how the word "Homosexual" that was invented in the 20th Century, got into a book written 1700 years prior?
 
I mean, if I saw the words helicopter, airplane, astronaut, Microsoft Word, or Internet in the Bible, I would think people would question the validity and intentions of the new author(s).
 
Donovan Arnold

--- On Tue, 10/20/09, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] More Evangelical Christians are Getting It
To: "Objective Reason" <objectivereason at gmail.com>
Cc: "vision2020 at moscow.com" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Date: Tuesday, October 20, 2009, 12:35 AM



Tell me, why don't you criticize adulters as much as gays? And some in your church have committed sexually immoral acts; no doubt some are adulters. Why not use your fake name to publically condemn them? 


This is a serious set of questions. Save the insults and please answer it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 19, 2009, at 5:22 PM, Objective Reason <objectivereason at gmail.com> wrote:




Evangelical Christians are getting it?  There is nothing for Christians to get in that area.  The Bible is explicitly clear concerning homosexuality.   


I Cor. 6:9-10 "Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."  


I Tim. 1:9-11 "understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine, in accordance with the gospel of the glory of the blessed God with which I have been entrusted."


These verses are pretty self-explanatory (whether you agree with them or not).  So Christians that are beginning to accept homosexuality are going against their own faith.  I'm sure you would say that people are entitled to believe whatever they want, and while you obviously don't agree with Christianity very much, it should be pointed out that those "Christians" in the gay parades are the ones not getting it.  Christians should treat them just like murderers, enslavers, liars etc.  Christians preach against it, pray for them, and minister to them, just like murderers etc.  No bigotry here.  But that's obviously not how you see it.






Art- You sure draw a lot of conclusions and create a lot of conspiracy theories by not attending the conference or visiting the churches you attack.  


On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Saundra Lund <v2020 at ssl.fastmail.fm> wrote:

In spite of Christ Church's gross perversion last week (the "Sexual
Orthodoxy" ministerial conference), it heartens me to continue to come
across more and more Evangelical Christians who really are getting it.

A Step in Faith
Evangelical Christian Brent Childers explains his journey from believing
that homosexuality was an abomination to marching in a pro-gay march on
Washington.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/216910

"There are many, many others I have met in my work with Faith in America, as
we try to bring awareness and understanding to the pain and trauma caused to
LGBT people, especially youth, when church teaching is misused to justify
and promote a societal climate of rejection, condemnation, and
discrimination. . . Every person coming to Washington-whether they are
religious or not-does share one faith, and that is faith in America. We can
and must do better. As the progress of history has shown, Americans will
prove themselves able to see beyond religion-based bigotry to the promises
of equal treatment for all. Those who use religion-based bigotry to
persecute and discriminate against LGBT people are on the wrong side of
history, just as they were with slavery, interracial marriage, the treatment
of women, and so many other issues."

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