[Vision2020] More Evangelical Christians are Getting It

[Objective Reason]

"why don't you criticize adulters as much as gays?"  Personally I do just as
much, but I don't "criticize".  If you are referring to "you" as just
myself.  But if you're referring to the church in general, they probably do
just as much, people like you and others on this board however just don't
like to focus on that.  "my church"?  As in Christ Church?  I don't go to
Christ Church.  But I know they completely ignore adultery.  In fact, Doug
Wilson recently joined a Adultery Parade.  Come on.  When they've had issues
like that, they would take care of it just as much as if they would have
been homosexuals.  Those are serious answers.  Insult free.
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>wrote:

> Tell me, why don't you criticize adulters as much as gays? And some in your
> church have committed sexually immoral acts; no doubt some are adulters. Why
> not use your fake name to publically condemn them?
>
> This is a serious set of questions. Save the insults and please answer it.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 19, 2009, at 5:22 PM, Objective Reason <objectivereason at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Evangelical Christians are getting it?  There is nothing for Christians to
> get in that area.  The Bible is explicitly clear concerning homosexuality.
> I Cor. 6:9-10 "Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit
> the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor
> idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor
> thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will
> inherit the kingdom of God."
>
> I Tim. 1:9-11 "understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the
> just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for
> the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for
> murderers, the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality,
> enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary
> to sound doctrine, in accordance with the gospel of the glory of the blessed
> God with which I have been entrusted."
>
> These verses are pretty self-explanatory (whether you agree with them or
> not).  So Christians that are beginning to accept homosexuality are going
> against their own faith.  I'm sure you would say that people are entitled to
> believe whatever they want, and while you obviously don't agree with
> Christianity very much, it should be pointed out that those "Christians" in
> the gay parades are the ones not getting it.  Christians should treat them
> just like murderers, enslavers, liars etc.  Christians preach against it,
> pray for them, and minister to them, just like murderers etc.  No bigotry
> here.  But that's obviously not how you see it.
>
>
>
> Art- You sure draw a lot of conclusions and create a lot of conspiracy
> theories by not attending the conference or visiting the churches you
> attack.
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Saundra Lund < <v2020 at ssl.fastmail.fm>
> v2020 at ssl.fastmail.fm> wrote:
>
>> In spite of Christ Church's gross perversion last week (the "Sexual
>> Orthodoxy" ministerial conference), it heartens me to continue to come
>> across more and more Evangelical Christians who really are getting it.
>>
>> A Step in Faith
>> Evangelical Christian Brent Childers explains his journey from believing
>> that homosexuality was an abomination to marching in a pro-gay march on
>> Washington.
>>
>>  <http://www.newsweek.com/id/216910>http://www.newsweek.com/id/216910
>>
>> "There are many, many others I have met in my work with Faith in America,
>> as
>> we try to bring awareness and understanding to the pain and trauma caused
>> to
>> LGBT people, especially youth, when church teaching is misused to justify
>> and promote a societal climate of rejection, condemnation, and
>> discrimination. . . Every person coming to Washington-whether they are
>> religious or not-does share one faith, and that is faith in America. We
>> can
>> and must do better. As the progress of history has shown, Americans will
>> prove themselves able to see beyond religion-based bigotry to the promises
>> of equal treatment for all. Those who use religion-based bigotry to
>> persecute and discriminate against LGBT people are on the wrong side of
>> history, just as they were with slavery, interracial marriage, the
>> treatment
>> of women, and so many other issues."
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