[Vision2020] NYTimes: The Big Hate

[Joe Campbell]

Just find some quotes similar to the Beck comment about concentration  
camps or the O'Riley comments noted in the NY Times op ed piece:  
"Tiller the baby killer" or that Tiller had "blood on his hands." You  
are just muddying the watters with general quotes and unsupported  
accusations. Give specific examples of the kind of over the top  
rhetoric that I'm talking about here. So far nothing youve noted  
compares.

Joe Campbell

On Jun 14, 2009, at 10:41 AM, "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>  
wrote:

> If you imagine that MSNBC with Olbermann, Madow, and Mathews,  
> Newsweek and Evan Thomas, and taxpayer funded NPR with Jeffery  
> Dvorkin, Nina Totenberg, Terry Gross and Michele Norris doesn't put  
> a particularly and decidedly liberal spin on its "information" then  
> you're even thicker than I previously imagined. No mean feat, that.
>
> g
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Campbell" <philosopher.joe at gmail.com 
> >
> To: "Paul Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 5:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] NYTimes: The Big Hate
>
>
>> Paul,
>>
>> And what does this have to do with anything I've said? You're   
>> obviously reading something into my post that I did not say.
>>
>> Fox news is a disgusting example of bias, different in degree from  
>> any other news organization, IMO. That you would follow Tom's post  
>> with  some claim that "Everyone does it" strikes me as  
>> irresponsible since  it just muddys the water. Not every  
>> organization is biased in the way  Fox is. Someone needed to point  
>> that out and I did so. That is all  there is to it. I made no  
>> comments about conservative news  organizations in general, just  
>> the one bad apple.
>>
>> Joe Campbell
>>
>> On Jun 14, 2009, at 1:21 AM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>   
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Joe Campbell wrote:
>>>> This is precisely why I'm disagreeing with Paul. Folks like you   
>>>> have got him convinced that the NY Times is as bad as Fox News.   
>>>> What a joke!
>>>
>>> Nowhere did I say that the NY Times is as bad as Fox News.  All I   
>>> said was that all news has bias.  That includes both the NY Times   
>>> and Fox News, but it says nothing about the amount of bias  
>>> relative  to each other.
>>>
>>> You've drawn a line in the sand.  There is a "right" that watches   
>>> only Fox News, and there is a "left" that reads only the NY  
>>> Times.   The truth is, that line doesn't really exist as a line.   
>>> If you  really look at it, the right and left ideologies cover so  
>>> much  territory that you can't help but agree with a few concepts  
>>> "across  the line".
>>> If we're ever going to come back together again as a country, we   
>>> have to throw that crap out the window.  All of us have to do  
>>> this.   Instead of looking for where we might agree, we're  
>>> highlighting the  differences.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
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