[Vision2020] Sotomayor: US Supreme Court's Sixth Catholic?

[lfalen]

Nick
No one knows at this time.It is all speculation.
Roger
-----Original message-----
From: "Gier, Nicholas" NGIER at uidaho.edu
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 08:26:55 -0700
To: "Joe Campbell" philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sotomayor: US Supreme Court's Sixth Catholic?

> Hi Roger,
> 
> It is also possible that Sotomayor knows her own Catholic tradition well and realizes that the Church did not consider the abortion of a first trimester fetus murder until 1917.  Perhaps she also knows that two of the greatest minds of the Church--Augustine and Thomas Aquinas--did not believe that the early fetus was a person.  As I have argued endlessly on this list, their position has good scientific support.
> 
> Also it is possible that Sotomayor is a secret member of an organization called "Catholics for Free Choice," which points out all these significant historical facts.
> 
> Nick
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com on behalf of Joe Campbell
> Sent: Fri 6/5/2009 2:19 AM
> To: lfalen
> Cc: Moscow Vision 2020
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sotomayor: US Supreme Court's Sixth Catholic?
>  
> Roger,
> 
> You can be pro-life and also pro-choice. The issue is whether or not  
> you are truely in favor of freedom of religion and thought and  
> practice and are willing to accept that some folks don't share your  
> narrow world view. Why not let them decide for themselves.
> 
> Joe Campbell
> 
> On Jun 4, 2009, at 10:44 AM, lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote:
> 
> > I do not think that her views on abortion are well known. If turns  
> > out that she is pro-life, I lot of you with the possible exception  
> > of Keely will be less enthused with her appointment. It would be  
> > ironic if she turned out to be the reverse of Souter on the abortion  
> > issue.
> > Roger
> > -----Original message-----
> > From: Ted Moffett starbliss at gmail.com
> > Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:41:37 -0700
> > To: Moscow Vision 2020 vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Subject: [Vision2020] Sotomayor: US Supreme Court's Sixth Catholic?
> >
> >> Gender, racial or ethnic background may or may not be important in  
> >> a choice
> >> for a US Supreme Court justice, but it seems religious background  
> >> is not a
> >> major focus in the case of Sotomayor's nomination.
> >>
> >> And why is this issue not on the front page?  If she were Muslim,  
> >> Hindu or
> >> Atheist, the full force of the religious bias in the US body  
> >> politic towards
> >> a challenge to the Christian/Judaism monopoly on US politics would be
> >> revealed, despite the claim of the religious right that  
> >> Christianity is
> >> being marginalized in government.  Religion is a dominant influence  
> >> on
> >> ideology that should be open to full critical rational fact based
> >> discussion, as well as gender, racial or ethnic background.
> >>
> >> Article on Sotomayor's Catholic background:
> >>
> >> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/31/us/politics/31catholics.html?ref=global-home
> >> -------------------
> >> Why is there not a single US Senator who declares themselves of  
> >> another
> >> religious background than Christian or Jewish, of one variety or  
> >> another?
> >> There are two US Senators who are "unspecified."  Now there's a  
> >> faith for
> >> you!
> >>
> >> http://www.adherents.com/adh_congress.html#109
> >>
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_Affiliation_in_the_United_States_Senate
> >>
> >>> From website above:
> >>
> >> According to the data, no Senator falls under the category "No
> >> Religion/Atheist/Agnostic" - a category embodied by 15.0% of the U.S.
> >> population according to the 2001 Census.
> >> -------------------
> >> Religion is the most pervasive form of prejudice against a political
> >> position (and despite what some might wish otherwise, US Supreme  
> >> Court
> >> justice nominations are very political in nature) in US politics,  
> >> in the US
> >> Senate or the presidency.  More than gender, race or ethnicity.
> >>
> >> No politician running for the US Senate or the presidency would  
> >> stand a
> >> chance if they openly declared themselves Atheist.
> >>
> >> Ted Moffett
> >>
> >>
> >
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