[Vision2020] Sotomayor: US Supreme Court's Sixth Catholic?

Fri Jun 5 07:07:35 PDT 2009

I used to speculate wildly about whether or not our former President was 
really a believer or if he was blatantly manipulating the religious 
right through their own predilictions (or both).  What it comes down to 
is this: we can't look into their hearts.  Sotomayor may be the most 
devout Catholic evar, but doesn't outwardly show it on a day-to-day 
basis.  For all I know, she goes to church three times a week just to 
get away from her family.  We just can't know.

Paul

g. crabtree wrote:
> You're welcome, I suppose. It's a good thing that you choose an 
> occupation where any interpretation (no matter how off the mark) of 
> any subject can be seen as valid. A second grader would have been able 
> to discern that my contempt was for a pair of slimy politicians that 
> pay scant lip service to The Church and not for Catholicism itself. I 
> would be pleasantly surprised if the most recent supreme court nominee 
> turned out to take her professed religion seriously, I'm just a little 
> skeptical that it will turn out to be the case. When it comes to upper 
> level lefties it seldom does.
>  
> g
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Campbell" <philosopher.joe at gmail.com 
> <mailto:philosopher.joe at gmail.com>>
> To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com <mailto:jampot at roadrunner.com>>
> Cc: "lfalen" <lfalen at turbonet.com <mailto:lfalen at turbonet.com>>; "Ted 
> Moffett" <starbliss at gmail.com <mailto:starbliss at gmail.com>>; "Moscow 
> Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>>
> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 2:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sotomayor: US Supreme Court's Sixth Catholic?
>
> > Thanks Gary for sticking up for religions that defend SLAVERY but for 
> > kicking them down when they come from the left!
> >
> > Joe Campbell
> >
> > On Jun 4, 2009, at 5:24 PM, "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com 
> <mailto:jampot at roadrunner.com>> wrote:
> >
> >> Fat chance. Roger. I suspect that her Catholicism is more in the 
> >> tradition
> >> of Ted Kennedy and Nancy Pelosi. A box to check on the appropriate 
> >> forms and
> >> little else.
> >>
> >> g
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "lfalen" <lfalen at turbonet.com <mailto:lfalen at turbonet.com>>
> >> To: "Ted Moffett" <starbliss at gmail.com 
> <mailto:starbliss at gmail.com>>; "Moscow Vision 2020"
> >> <vision2020 at moscow.com <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>>
> >> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 10:44 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sotomayor: US Supreme Court's Sixth 
> >> Catholic?
> >>
> >>
> >>> I do not think that her views on abortion are well known. If turns 
> >>> out that
> >>> she is pro-life, I lot of you with the possible exception of Keely 
> >>> will be
> >>> less enthused with her appointment. It would be ironic if she 
> >>> turned out to
> >>> be the reverse of Souter on the abortion issue.
> >>> Roger
> >>> -----Original message-----
> >>> From: Ted Moffett starbliss at gmail.com <mailto:starbliss at gmail.com>
> >>> Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:41:37 -0700
> >>> To: Moscow Vision 2020 vision2020 at moscow.com 
> <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >>> Subject: [Vision2020] Sotomayor: US Supreme Court's Sixth Catholic?
> >>>
> >>>> Gender, racial or ethnic background may or may not be important in a
> >>>> choice
> >>>> for a US Supreme Court justice, but it seems religious background 
> >>>> is not
> >>>> a
> >>>> major focus in the case of Sotomayor's nomination.
> >>>>
> >>>> And why is this issue not on the front page?  If she were Muslim, 
> >>>> Hindu
> >>>> or
> >>>> Atheist, the full force of the religious bias in the US body politic
> >>>> towards
> >>>> a challenge to the Christian/Judaism monopoly on US politics would 
> >>>> be
> >>>> revealed, despite the claim of the religious right that 
> >>>> Christianity is
> >>>> being marginalized in government.  Religion is a dominant 
> >>>> influence on
> >>>> ideology that should be open to full critical rational fact based
> >>>> discussion, as well as gender, racial or ethnic background.
> >>>>
> >>>> Article on Sotomayor's Catholic background:
> >>>>
> >>>> 
> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/31/us/politics/31catholics.html?ref=global-home
> >>>> -------------------
> >>>> Why is there not a single US Senator who declares themselves of 
> >>>> another
> >>>> religious background than Christian or Jewish, of one variety or 
> >>>> another?
> >>>> There are two US Senators who are "unspecified."  Now there's a 
> >>>> faith for
> >>>> you!
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.adherents.com/adh_congress.html#109
> >>>>
> >>>> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_Affiliation_in_the_United_States_Senate
> >>>>
> >>>>> From website above:
> >>>>
> >>>> According to the data, no Senator falls under the category "No
> >>>> Religion/Atheist/Agnostic" - a category embodied by 15.0% of the 
> >>>> U.S.
> >>>> population according to the 2001 Census.
> >>>> -------------------
> >>>> Religion is the most pervasive form of prejudice against a political
> >>>> position (and despite what some might wish otherwise, US Supreme 
> >>>> Court
> >>>> justice nominations are very political in nature) in US politics, 
> >>>> in the
> >>>> US
> >>>> Senate or the presidency.  More than gender, race or ethnicity.
> >>>>
> >>>> No politician running for the US Senate or the presidency would 
> >>>> stand a
> >>>> chance if they openly declared themselves Atheist.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ted Moffett
> >>>>
> >>>>
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