[Vision2020] Moscow Tea Party

Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Sat Apr 18 15:35:11 PDT 2009


The idea that we're oppressed because we pay taxes is offensive. My  
comments are not directed to you but to Teabaggers in general. And no  
contradiction; not ALL politicians are bad, Bush was.

Joe Campbell

On Apr 18, 2009, at 3:19 PM, Kai Eiselein <fotopro63 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Umm, excuse me, Joe, but you've just contradicted yourself, first  
> you say it's the fault of the previous prez and administration, then  
> you say it's the fault of the electorate.
> So which is it?
>
> Secondly, how do you know how I voted? Have you been peeking at  
> ballots, matching umbers to names? As far as I remember, I've never  
> stated how I voted in any given election.
>
> Then you go on to accuse me of being a Republican, where is your  
> proof? I belong to NO party. So your angry rant about my "poor  
> choices" is nothing more than you pissing in the wind.
>
> I can't speak about CC/Pall. I do know there was a sign that  
> somebody carried, that said something. It's a First Amendment right  
> to do so, or have you forgotten that? Perhaps in your Utopia, speech  
> is free as long as you agree with it. I don't recall you stepping up  
> when I was called a racist in this forum.
>
> Almost everyone who is in the public eye, chose to put themselves  
> there. That includes me. With that choice, we expose ourselves to  
> attacks that are sometimes viscous and personal.
>
> I'm not opposed to government, Joe, I'm opposed to government that  
> is oppressive, overbearing and overly powerful. The flame that our  
> forefathers ignited as a servant of the people has, instead, become  
> our master.
>
> From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
> To: fotopro63 at hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Moscow Tea Party
> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 00:37:31 -0700
> CC: mattd2107 at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
>
> It is a democracy, Kai. We elect them. Our fault. Sorry.
>
> Besides, Republicans elected an idiot. Twice. So until I hear you  
> say you're sorry about your own recent poor choices, I don't want to  
> hear complaints about politicians in general. It is not every  
> politician's fault. Saying so just hides the real facts, e.g. that  
> you and others elected an idiot and now we are all paying for it.
>
> And guess what? You tried to do it again with Palin. This anti- 
> government talk just leads folks to thinking that we're better off  
> with inexperienced idiots but we're not.
>
> Lastly, I didn't see you complain when Mr. Christ Church called  
> Linda Pall a bigot. Who in their right mind would want to run for  
> office under such conditions? No one but an idiot. And since we're  
> looking for a saint the only ones electable are inexperienced  
> idiots, ones with no visable track record.
>
> We've created this situation, Kai, not the politicians. We only have  
> ourselves to blame. This is the beauty -- and the burden -- of  
> living in a Democracy! Ultimately our government is our fault.
>
> Joe Campbell
>
> On Apr 18, 2009, at 12:11 AM, Kai Eiselein <fotopro63 at hotmail.com>  
> wrote:
>
> ROFLMAO!
>
> I guess we should blame three legged midgets from outer space then.
>
>
>
> From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
> To: fotopro63 at hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Moscow Tea Party
> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 23:33:52 -0700
> CC: mattd2107 at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
>
> Bullshit.
>
> Joe Campbell
>
> On Apr 17, 2009, at 9:52 PM, Kai Eiselein <fotopro63 at hotmail.com>  
> wrote:
>
> Joe said: "... we're in a bad way because of the last administration  
> and President. Blame him for your troubles, not our taxes."
>
> Joe is wrong.
>
> The proper statement is: "We're in a bad way because of the  
> Republicans and Democrats who have been running this country into  
> the ground for decades."
> Anyone who believes it is the fault of one party or another is  
> either a partisan hack or a fool.
> You never hear party members or their leaders say, "We/I screwed  
> up." It's ALWAYS "the other party's fault."
>
>
> From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
> To: mattd2107 at hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Moscow Tea Party
> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:53:25 -0700
> CC: fotopro63 at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
>
> Matt,
>
> First, we're in a bad way. What we need is to come together not  
> particine bickering. Second, we're in a bad way because of the last  
> administration and President. Blame him for your troubles, not our  
> taxes.
>
> Best, Joe
>
> On Apr 17, 2009, at 5:25 PM, Matt Decker <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>  
> wrote:
>
> Why?
>
> MD
>
> From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
> To: fotopro63 at hotmail.com
> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:31:17 -0700
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Moscow Tea Party
>
> Anyone who was at this protest yet did not attend one protest about  
> Bush over the last eight years should be ashamed of him or herself.
>
> Joe Campbell
>
> On Apr 17, 2009, at 8:32 AM, Kai Eiselein <fotopro63 at hotmail.com>  
> wrote:
>
> Think it was only conservatives at the protest?
> Think again.
>
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