[Vision2020] 8 year old girl denied divorce

[Joe Campbell]

"God tolerated slavery, and tried to regulate it"? What sense can this  
make? How can a benevolent being tolerate slavery? How can an  
omnipotent being try to do something and fail?

Joe Campbell

On Apr 15, 2009, at 4:51 PM, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com 
 > wrote:

> Ralph,
>
> I quoted you "exactly". I didn't write the words, you did. it is  
> clear by reading your words, you agree with Doug Wilson.
>
> I was simply following your lead. As you like to distort the Bible,  
> and the meaning of what it means by taking things out of context,  
> taking one line from one book, then another line for another, than  
> ignoring the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, putting it  
> together and drawing your own conclusions without any formal  
> training or understanding of the Bible.
>
> God tolerated slavery, and tried to regulate it. Jesus was not pro- 
> slavery. And Christians are not pro-slavery.
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Donovan
>
>
> --- On Wed, 4/15/09, Ralph Nielsen <nielsen at uidaho.edu> wrote:
>
> From: Ralph Nielsen <nielsen at uidaho.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] 8 year old girl denied divorce
> To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>, "Bear" <bear at moscow.com>,  
> "Joseph Campbell" <josephc at wsu.edu>
> Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 9:29 AM
>
> Donovan,
>
> You do seem to like twisting people's words, don't you? I wrote,  
> "Or, as Doug Wilson would put it, Slavery is biblical. I agree with  
> Doug." SLAVERY IS BIBLICAL.
>
> Bear and I did not say that we should support slavery because God  
> approves of it in the Bible. Doug approves of slavery because it is  
> biblical. I strongly disapprove of slavery, whether it is biblical  
> or not. Whether God approves of it or not.
>
> As for the KJV, it dishonestly translates the Hebrew word for slave  
> as "servant." But do people buy and sell servants? If you sold your  
> daughter for a servant, isn't that slavery? Honest translations of  
> the Bible call a slave a slave.
>
> Ralph
>
>
> On Apr 15, 2009, at 9:01 AM, Donovan Arnold wrote:
>
>> "Slavery is in the context of everything we read in the Bible. Or,  
>> as Doug Wilson would put it, Slavery is biblical. I agree with  
>> Doug."--Ralph Nielsen
>>
>> I am sure Doug will be thrilled. I am equally sure the two of you  
>> will convince Christians they should support slavery because the  
>> Bible says you should according to Bear and Ralph's interpretations  
>> of the KJV.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Donovan
>>
>> Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 8:38 AM
>>
>> Dear Donovan,
>>
>> Bear is correct. You don't read the Bible very carefully, Bear  
>> does. Please read his comments again.
>>
>> The Ten (not Two) Commandments did not come from Jesus, in the New  
>> Testament; they came direct from God, in the Old Testament. And  
>> they are not the same.
>>
>> As for slavery, it is not condemned anywhere in the entire Bible,  
>> both Old and New Testaments, by either God, Jesus or anyone else.  
>> That is "the big picture," as you call it. Slavery is in the  
>> context of everything we read in the Bible. Or, as Doug Wilson  
>> would put it, Slavery is biblical. I agree with Doug.
>>
>> Donovan, I think you're trying to discredit the Bible by making  
>> false claims about it.
>>
>> Ralph
>>
>>
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