[Vision2020] An article from IdahoStatesman.com

Sunil Ramalingam sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
Thu Mar 29 20:19:17 PDT 2007 

Gary,

We'll talk to you after you've been adequately, nay, properly, re-educated.  
Remember, it's not re-education if it doesn't hurt.

Sunil


>From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>
>To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>,        "Paul Rumelhart" 
><godshatter at yahoo.com>, <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] An article from IdahoStatesman.com
>Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 19:04:29 -0700
>
>To whom it may concern,
>   Please disregard the libelous and completely untruthful statements I 
>made previously regarding the illustrious and benevolent Mass. DMV 
>(official motto: for the betterment of the universe) I was wrong to have 
>said those things and will, in the future strive to speak only the glowing 
>truth about this truly wonderful and selfless organization. Please accept 
>my most abject apology for the insult I knowingly and maliciously heaped 
>upon my betters. I am an ass and as such am unworthy of sharing a planet 
>with people as wonderful and all knowing as these. I anxiously await their 
>telling me what I should do, say , and think as I have proven myself 
>utterly incapable of carrying these duties out on my own.
>
>g
>
>
>
>I'll miss you, Fluffy.
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: g. crabtree
>   To: Paul Rumelhart ; vision2020 at moscow.com
>   Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 6:32 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Vision2020] An article from IdahoStatesman.com
>
>
>   The Mass. DMV is the most evil, inflexible, obdurate organization on the 
>face of this or any other planet. They make the KGB seem warm and cuddly. 
>They make the Borg seem open to friendly negotiation and persuasion. They 
>are always right and should you dare to disagree, they will make your life 
>hell until you relent and admit to their all knowing superiority and abase 
>yourself to their grinning, sadistic satisfaction. Their  official motto: 
>All hail Mass. DMV (or we'll kill you) Please don't get me started. In fact 
>their probably monitoring this discussion board and making plans to kidnap 
>and torture one of my pets for having the temerity to say something 
>negative about their little cabal. I've got to go, there's someone at my 
>front door...
>
>   g
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Paul Rumelhart
>     To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>     Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 5:20 PM
>     Subject: Re: [Vision2020] An article from IdahoStatesman.com
>
>
>     g.,
>
>     We don't agree on a lot of things, but I have to say that I agree with 
>pretty much everything you said here.  The Archies thing was a 
>misunderstanding and the proprietors shouldn't be raked over the coals for 
>it.  I don't smoke, and prefer smoke-free restraunts and bars, but I don't 
>think I have the right to force anybody to agree to that.  I hate 
>group-think, and look to eradicate it where I can.
>
>     However, I don't understand the reference to the Massachusetts DMV.  
>What am I missing?
>
>     Paul
>
>     g. crabtree wrote:
>       Either become a warm, kind, caring, evolved passenger on spaceship 
>Moscow, sensitive to the health and emotional welfare of your fellow 
>travelers or we'll destroy your reputation, confiscate your ability to feed 
>your family and drive your unfeeling ass out of town.
>
>       Why do certain, contestably well intentioned, people feel the need 
>to band together to bend others to their will? When the disabled fellow and 
>his person felt that they weren't being made as welcome as they would have 
>liked at one restaurant they opted to go to another. Good call! Why not 
>have left it at that? Why the overwhelming need to be vindictive, organize 
>a mob to punish the first establishments owner, force them, by God, to come 
>around to their way of thinking, even though the disruption was almost 
>certainly the result of a misunderstanding or a momentary lapse on the part 
>of Mr. Johnson and/or the caregiver/aid/friend/whatever?
>
>       To a lesser extent, the same applies to Bucer's. They have a smoking 
>room. You may not like it but you are not required to frequent the 
>establishment. Choose one of the many other businesses that are more to 
>your liking and leave Bucer's to cater to the clientele that appreciates 
>the increasingly rare opportunity to enjoy a smoke with like minded 
>patrons. Attempting to pass legislation to force a private property owner 
>to comply with your desires under penalty of loss of livelihood is meddling 
>in another's bailiwick writ large. Lets face it, the likelihood that Mr. 
>Rigby or Mr. Carscallen are feeling seriously neglected or that their 
>wellbeing is negatively impacted by not being able to down yet another high 
>priced cup of joe is doubtful. Drink in Pullman if it's more to your 
>liking, don't deprive others into having no place to gather, all to satisfy 
>your personal whim.
>
>       Since when does the majority get to dictate their way of thinking on 
>all others, in all matters? Is George Orwell and Aldous Huxley no longer 
>read as part of a "public education?" I guess the idea that someone might 
>want to go their own way has become unfathomable and group think the order 
>of the day. Liberal Moscow is turning into the Massachusetts DMV.
>
>       g
>
>
>       ----- Original Message -----
>       From: "Dan Carscallen" <areaman at moscow.com>
>       To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>       Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 6:14 AM
>       Subject: Re: [Vision2020] An article from IdahoStatesman.com
>
>
>       > Tim posts a link to an article and says:
>       > "Great job Idaho Legislature.  Now if Moscow could only get 
>Bucer's
>       > Coffee House to follow the rules, the world would be a better 
>place."
>       >
>       > Not sure what anything going on in Bucer's has to do with bowling 
>alleys
>       > and smoking . . .
>       >
>       > BUT, I'm all for adopting the whole "no smoking" deal like 
>Washington.
>       > Having a beer in a Pullman pub is a much more pleasant experience.
>       >
>       > DC
>       >
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