[Vision2020] Population

[J Ford]

Whatever!



J  :]





>From: "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>
>To: "vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Population
>Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 19:41:31 -0800
>
>Soooo, your telling me that you do not approve of Doug and have a strong
>urge to fix him....I understand.
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Chasuk" <chasuk at gmail.com>
>To: "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>
>Cc: "vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 1:26 PM
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Population
>
>
>On 3/17/00, Pat Kraut <pkraut at moscow.com> wrote:
>
> > I am not sure why you keep posting this quote from Doug but you need to
>know
> > that a good many are looking at this sort of demographic.
>
>You make a good point, Pat, but I think I know the answer.  The quote
>from Doug is reproduced below:
>
> > "As more and more heathens 'choose' to not have children the number of
>Godly
> > souls will increase. If the number of Christian births out number the
>number
> > of Islamic births the battle will be over in 3 or 4 generations."
>
>Your own contribution, from Philip Jenkins, Professor at Penn ST U.,
>much more acceptably states:
>
> > "In just 20 or 30 years Iran has gone from six children per woman to 
>two.
>In
> > other words, the U.S. now has a higher fertility rate than Iran. Now
>that's
> > of interest in its own right, but it also means that in 15 or 20 years,
> > you're going to have far fewer young men of the sort who represent the
> > violent , active militant groups. It's quite likely that there will be a
> > decline of religious conflict."
>
>It is all a matter of wording.  "Heathen" is generally pejorative.  It
>has been used by followers of Abrahamic religions (such as of Judaism,
>Christianity, and Islam) to refer members of other faiths, but almost
>universally in a negative context.
>
>Suppose Doug had written:
>
>The birthrate in most Muslim countries is declining precipitously,
>especially in those countries which seem to produce the largest
>numbers of Muslim fundamentalists.
>If this continues for 20 years, the Christian West will have nothing
>to worry about."
>
>The first seems designed to antagonize, the second is carefully
>neutral.  Which is more constructive for reasoned dialogue?  I'm not
>picking on Doug.  I agree with him a fairly significant portion of the
>time.  I'm just saying that the reason for Tom's mockery in this case
>is deserved, or at least understandable.
>
>
>
>--
>No virus found in this incoming message.
>Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.9/719 - Release Date: 3/12/07 
>8:41
>AM
>
>
>=======================================================
>  List services made available by First Step Internet,
>  serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.
>                http://www.fsr.net
>           mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com
>=======================================================

_________________________________________________________________
Interest Rates near 39yr lows! $430,000 Mortgage for $1,399/mo - Calculate 
new payment 
http://www.lowermybills.com/lre/index.jsp?sourceid=lmb-9632-18466&moid=7581