[Vision2020] The maladjusted and those who enable them...

Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com
Fri Mar 16 09:36:56 PDT 2007 

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"Must we continue to patronize these maladjusted freaks who would pervert
society to reflect their own warped perspectives?"

- Tony "ToeKnee" Simpson (October 20, 2006)

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From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Art Deco
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 9:29 AM
To: Vision 2020
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The maladjusted and those who enable them...

 

Tony,

 

reaction formation  (plural reaction formations):  In psychoanalysis, a
defense mechanism in which somebody condemns something that has a strong,
driving unconscious appeal.

 

 

reaction formation is a defense
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_mechanism>  mechanism in which anxiety
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anxiety> -producing or unacceptable emotions
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotion>  are replaced by their direct
opposites. This mechanism is often characteristic of obsessional neuroses.
When this mechanism is overused, especially during the formation of the ego,
it can become a permanent character trait. This is often in those with
obsessional character and obsessive personality disorders. This does not
imply that its periodic usage is always obsessional, but that it can lead to
obsessional behavior.  Example:  A man who is overly aroused by pornographic
material who utilizes reaction formation may take on an attitude of
criticism toward the topic.

 

 

REACTION-FORMATION : The blocking of desire by its opposite.
"Reaction-formation" is the term Freud uses to describe the mechanism
whereby the ego
<http://www.cla.purdue.edu/English/theory/psychoanalysis/definitions/ego.htm
l>  reacts to the impulses of the id
<http://www.cla.purdue.edu/English/theory/psychoanalysis/definitions/id.html
>  by creating an antithetical formation that blocks repressed
<http://www.cla.purdue.edu/English/theory/psychoanalysis/definitions/repress
ion.html>  cathexes
<http://www.cla.purdue.edu/English/theory/psychoanalysis/definitions/cathexi
s.html> . For example, someone who feels homosexual desire might
<http://www.cla.purdue.edu/English/theory/psychoanalysis/definitions/repress
ion.html> repress that desire by turning it into hatred for all homosexuals.

 

 

Perhaps you and Farris might confront and thus deal directly with your
personal demons discretely in private, rather than so obviously exhibiting
them in public.  I am sure that everyone would benefit, especially you and
Farris:  both your stultifying repressions and secret frustrations could be
at least partially deadened.  And after you have relived your tensions,
perhaps you might be able to pass on your personal experiences with the cure
and your newly found contacts to Cultmaster Douglas Wilson and his apparent
secret admirer Douglas Jones, both who appear to need such therapy quite
badly.

 

Your internally inconsistent post also reveals the grave doubts you have
about your masculinity and sexual identity when you have to resort to
posting outright lies.  For example:

 

"Saundra's determination to avoid reality by choosing to doubt what has by
now become commonplace, rather than investigate, is disappointing if not
surprising."

 

Included in this thread is a post by Saundra giving the URL to the story
from the Chicago Tribune which casts a very different light on the story
posted originally by the salivating, non-critical Farris.  Saundra
investigated; you did not.  It is one thing for you and the gullible,
narrow-witted Farris to delude yourselves thinking you are agent
provocateurs, but, in reality, quite another to so clearly exhibit
yourselves as sexually frustrated liars.


Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
deco at moscow.com

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Tony" < <mailto:tonytime at clearwire.net> tonytime at clearwire.net>

To: "Art Deco" < <mailto:deco at moscow.com> deco at moscow.com>

Cc: < <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com> vision2020 at moscow.com>

Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 8:21 AM

Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The maladjusted and those who enable them...

 

> Wow Doug, you really flushed out the extremist, sodomite activists with
your 
> entirely reasonable and justified outrage over the public school's
abhorrent 
> support for inappropriate, dirty and unhealthy behaviors.  Saundra's 
> determination to avoid reality by choosing to doubt what has by now become

> commonplace, rather than investigate, is disappointing if not surprising.
> 
> And how about Wayne's complete refusal to address your message in favor of
a 
> masturbatory fit of name calling?  You know you have hit upon the truth in
a 
> persuasive manner when these folks, who seem determined to defend the 
> indefensible, respond in a childlike snit.
> 
> Keep up the good work partner.
> 
> Best,   -Tony
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Art Deco" < <mailto:deco at moscow.com> deco at moscow.com>
> To: "Vision 2020" < <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com> vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 7:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] And you all say that we have a political
agenda?!
> 
> 
>> Replaying:
>>
>> This kind of right wing/religious bullshit is what happens when
misguided,
>> stupid, and/or tyrannical people depend on superstition for their moral
>> beliefs rather than observation and reasoning.
>>
>> W.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Sue Hovey" < <mailto:suehovey at moscow.com> suehovey at moscow.com>
>> To: "Saundra Lund" < <mailto:sslund at roadrunner.com>
sslund at roadrunner.com>; < <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>
vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 6:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] And you all say that we have a political 
>> agenda?!
>>
>>
>>> Note Waltz's final comment, "All our kids are great kids, whether they 
>>> are
>>> gay or straight," is, I believe, the point of these classes.  Too bad
she
>>> doesn't get it.
>>>
>>> Strange the Trib article doesn't even mention the nondisclosure contract
>>> bit, which, if true, would be a significant issue for the press.  I
>>> seriously doubt there is anything to the claim students have to sign a
>>> contract promising "not to tell their parents."  Public school folks who
>>> work with teenagers know they tell everything--to everyone, except maybe
>>> their parents, until they turn 40 and around the dinner table tell us
all
>>> that stuff we really don't want to know now.
>>>
>>> Mrs. Walz's  daughter was hurt when her beliefs were challenged. But
>>> that's
>>> how kids grow, and adults, too.  To be called on to examine ones beliefs
>>> is
>>> not to say they are necessarily wrong; but as one who grew up believing
>>> pretty much what Mrs Walz would have her daughter believe, I wish
someone
>>> had challenged my attitudes when I was 17 or so.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the lin.
>>>
>>> Sue Hovey
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>gt;> From: "Saundra Lund" < <mailto:sslund at roadrunner.com>
sslund at roadrunner.com>
>>> To: "'Sue Hovey'" < <mailto:suehovey at moscow.com> suehovey at moscow.com>; <
<mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com> vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 11:01 AM
>>> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] And you all say that we have a political
>>> agenda?!
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Sue,
>>>>
>>>> You might want to check out this link to a story that was in the
Chicago
>>>> Trib:
>>>>  <http://tinyurl.com/2arte6> http://tinyurl.com/2arte6
>>>>
>>>> Not surprisingly, the story is actually quite a bit different than the
>>>> drivel Doug Farris wants us to believe.  Seems to me the religious
>>>> reactionaries need to get their stories straight -- it's hard to make 
>>>> the
>>>> argument about the whole nonsense of some confidentiality contract when
>>>> everyone knows about the event in advance and parents can opt to not 
>>>> have
>>>> their children participate.  Notice, too, the names & how Ellen Waltz,
>>>> whose name appears in the Trib, seems to be changing her story  :-P
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Saundra Lund
>>>> Moscow, ID
>>>>
>>>> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to 
>>>> do
>>>> nothing.
>>>> - Edmund Burke
>>>>
>>>> ***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2006 through life
>>>> plus 70 years, Saundra Lund.  Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or 
>>>> reproduce
>>>> outside the Vision 2020 forum without the express written permission of
>>>> the author.*****

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