[Vision2020] The maladjusted and those who enable them...

[Art Deco]

Tony,

reaction formation  (plural reaction formations):  In psychoanalysis, a defense mechanism in which somebody condemns something that has a strong, driving unconscious appeal.


reaction formation is a defense mechanism in which anxiety-producing or unacceptable emotions are replaced by their direct opposites. This mechanism is often characteristic of obsessional neuroses. When this mechanism is overused, especially during the formation of the ego, it can become a permanent character trait. This is often in those with obsessional character and obsessive personality disorders. This does not imply that its periodic usage is always obsessional, but that it can lead to obsessional behavior.  Example:  A man who is overly aroused by pornographic material who utilizes reaction formation may take on an attitude of criticism toward the topic.


REACTION-FORMATION : The blocking of desire by its opposite. "Reaction-formation" is the term Freud uses to describe the mechanism whereby the ego reacts to the impulses of the id by creating an antithetical formation that blocks repressed cathexes. For example, someone who feels homosexual desire might repress that desire by turning it into hatred for all homosexuals.


Perhaps you and Farris might confront and thus deal directly with your personal demons discretely in private, rather than so obviously exhibiting them in public.  I am sure that everyone would benefit, especially you and Farris:  both your stultifying repressions and secret frustrations could be at least partially deadened.  And after you have relived your tensions, perhaps you might be able to pass on your personal experiences with the cure and your newly found contacts to Cultmaster Douglas Wilson and his apparent secret admirer Douglas Jones, both who appear to need such therapy quite badly.

Your internally inconsistent post also reveals the grave doubts you have about your masculinity and sexual identity when you have to resort to posting outright lies.  For example:

"Saundra's determination to avoid reality by choosing to doubt what has by now become commonplace, rather than investigate, is disappointing if not surprising."


Included in this thread is a post by Saundra giving the URL to the story from the Chicago Tribune which casts a very different light on the story posted originally by the salivating, non-critical Farris.  Saundra investigated; you did not.  It is one thing for you and the gullible, narrow-witted Farris to delude yourselves thinking you are agent provocateurs, but, in reality, quite another to so clearly exhibit yourselves as sexually frustrated liars.

Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
deco at moscow.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
To: "Art Deco" <deco at moscow.com>
Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The maladjusted and those who enable them...


> Wow Doug, you really flushed out the extremist, sodomite activists with your 
> entirely reasonable and justified outrage over the public school's abhorrent 
> support for inappropriate, dirty and unhealthy behaviors.  Saundra's 
> determination to avoid reality by choosing to doubt what has by now become 
> commonplace, rather than investigate, is disappointing if not surprising.
> 
> And how about Wayne's complete refusal to address your message in favor of a 
> masturbatory fit of name calling?  You know you have hit upon the truth in a 
> persuasive manner when these folks, who seem determined to defend the 
> indefensible, respond in a childlike snit.
> 
> Keep up the good work partner.
> 
> Best,   -Tony
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Art Deco" <deco at moscow.com>
> To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 7:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] And you all say that we have a political agenda?!
> 
> 
>> Replaying:
>>
>> This kind of right wing/religious bullshit is what happens when misguided,
>> stupid, and/or tyrannical people depend on superstition for their moral
>> beliefs rather than observation and reasoning.
>>
>> W.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Sue Hovey" <suehovey at moscow.com>
>> To: "Saundra Lund" <sslund at roadrunner.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 6:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] And you all say that we have a political 
>> agenda?!
>>
>>
>>> Note Waltz's final comment, "All our kids are great kids, whether they 
>>> are
>>> gay or straight," is, I believe, the point of these classes.  Too bad she
>>> doesn't get it.
>>>
>>> Strange the Trib article doesn't even mention the nondisclosure contract
>>> bit, which, if true, would be a significant issue for the press.  I
>>> seriously doubt there is anything to the claim students have to sign a
>>> contract promising "not to tell their parents."  Public school folks who
>>> work with teenagers know they tell everything--to everyone, except maybe
>>> their parents, until they turn 40 and around the dinner table tell us all
>>> that stuff we really don't want to know now.
>>>
>>> Mrs. Walz's  daughter was hurt when her beliefs were challenged. But
>>> that's
>>> how kids grow, and adults, too.  To be called on to examine ones beliefs
>>> is
>>> not to say they are necessarily wrong; but as one who grew up believing
>>> pretty much what Mrs Walz would have her daughter believe, I wish someone
>>> had challenged my attitudes when I was 17 or so.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the lin.
>>>
>>> Sue Hovey
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>gt;> From: "Saundra Lund" <sslund at roadrunner.com>
>>> To: "'Sue Hovey'" <suehovey at moscow.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 11:01 AM
>>> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] And you all say that we have a political
>>> agenda?!
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Sue,
>>>>
>>>> You might want to check out this link to a story that was in the Chicago
>>>> Trib:
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2arte6
>>>>
>>>> Not surprisingly, the story is actually quite a bit different than the
>>>> drivel Doug Farris wants us to believe.  Seems to me the religious
>>>> reactionaries need to get their stories straight -- it's hard to make 
>>>> the
>>>> argument about the whole nonsense of some confidentiality contract when
>>>> everyone knows about the event in advance and parents can opt to not 
>>>> have
>>>> their children participate.  Notice, too, the names & how Ellen Waltz,
>>>> whose name appears in the Trib, seems to be changing her story  :-P
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Saundra Lund
>>>> Moscow, ID
>>>>
>>>> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to 
>>>> do
>>>> nothing.
>>>> - Edmund Burke
>>>>
>>>> ***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2006 through life
>>>> plus 70 years, Saundra Lund.  Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or 
>>>> reproduce
>>>> outside the Vision 2020 forum without the express written permission of
>>>> the author.*****
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