[Vision2020] Life after death?

[Ralph Nielsen]

Doug,
I have already quoted to you exactly what God himself said about  
there being no life for mortals after they die. So it doesn't matter  
what his alleged son said about it.

If you don't believe the Bible, why quote from it?

Do you realize that very little of the Nicene Creed is based on the  
Bible? Do you know it is largely a political document backed by the  
emperor Constantine?

I'm calling it a night now, so happy dreams to you, Doug.

Ralph


On Feb 26, 2007, at 9:23 PM, heirdoug at netscape.net wrote:

> Ralph, I may be pitiful in your eyes. But you are to be most  
> pittied [sic]. To live your life with only hope in yourself and  
> your meager accomplishments. "What shall it profit a man, to gain  
> the whole world and loose [sic] his very soul."
>
> I don't believe I ever said that [I] believe in the Bible. I think  
> I said or inferred [implied] that I believe that the Bible is the  
> True word of a Triune God.
>
> I believe in the author of the Bible. I believe in one God, the  
> Father Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, and of all things  
> visible and invisible; And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only  
> begotten Son of God, begotten of his Father before all worlds, God  
> of God, Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made,  
> being of one substance with the Father; by whom all things were  
> made; who for us men and for our salvation came down from heaven,  
> and was incarnate by the Holy Ghost of the Virgin Mary, and was  
> made man; and was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate; he  
> suffered and was buried; and the third day he rose again according  
> to the Scriptures, and ascended into heaven, and sitteth on the  
> right hand of the Father; and he shall come again, with glory, to  
> judge both the quick and the dead; whose kingdom shall have no end.  
> And I believe in the Holy Ghost, the Lord, and Giver of Life, who  
> proceedeth from the Father and the Son; who with the Father and the  
> Son together is worshipped and glorified; who spake by the  
> Prophets.  And I believe one holy catholic and apostolic Church; I  
> acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins; and I look for  
> the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come.
>
> What do you believe in Ralph? And when did you deny your baptism?
>
> Doug!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nielsen at uidaho.edu
> To: heirdoug at netscape.net
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Sent: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 9:01 PM
> Subject: Re: Life after death?
>
> Doug,
>
> You are pitiful. You claim you believe in the Bible but you  
> obviously do not. There is nothing about life after death in the  
> Psalms, no matter how loud you sing them.
>
> You dragged 2 verses out of context from Ezekiel, but they deal  
> with deportees returning to Jerusalem after the Exile. Again,  
> absolutely nothing about life after death. Why do you bother  
> quoting from the Bible if you don't believe what it says?
>
> Get real, Doug. There isn't any life after death; there is only  
> life before death. So make the most of it. Don't waste your time on  
> escapist fantasies.
>
> "Go, eat your bread with enjoyment, and drink your wine with a  
> merry heart; for God has long ago approved what you do. ...  
> Whatever your hand finds to do, do with your might; for there is no  
> work or thought or knowledge or wisdom in Sheol, to which you are  
> going" (Ecclesiastes 9:7,10).
>
> Have a nice night, Doug.
>
> Ralph
>