[Vision2020] church and state again

Sun Nov 3 09:01:49 PST 2019

 “Almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so.” 
―  Robert A. Heinlein  

    On Sunday, November 3, 2019, 07:45:30 AM PST, vision2020-request at moscow.com <vision2020-request at moscow.com> wrote:  

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    On Sunday, November 3, 2019, 05:35:07 AM PST, vision2020-request at moscow.com <vision2020-request at moscow.com> wrote:  

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? 1. What kind of pet do you think I should get? (Moscow Cares)
? 2. No religious test (Moscow Cares)

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Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2019 05:09:39 -0800
From: Moscow Cares <moscowcares at moscow.com>
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Subject: [Vision2020] What kind of pet do you think I should get?
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?What kind of pet do you think I should get? ?by Jennifer Caldwell

What kind of pet do you think I should get?
A lion, a tiger, or maybe an egret?

My parents said I am responsible and can have whatever I wish.
A hippopotamus, a zebra, or maybe a fish?

What about a giraffe that I can feed from my upstairs bed?
Or would I have to climb up on the roof when it needs fed?

Maybe a lion who is a king and I can be the prince?
Do you think my parents I would have to convince?

There are monkeys and gorillas and snakes of all types!
But I think a cobra or boa constrictor would cause my mom to gripe!

Maybe an elephant, but they have such big poop!
A dump truck is what you would need if you had to poop scoop!

What about a camel with one or two humps?
I think if I rode it lot it would start to hurt my rump!

Or a polar bear like I saw at the zoo?
Does that mean I would have to live in an igloo?

I just can't decide what I should choose?
Do you think an alligator my parents would refuse?

What about a shark that could live in my pool?
But who would feed it and pet it while I am away at school?

Maybe a grizzly bear; half the year they go to sleep.
Never mind, it might attack my neighbor's herd of sheep!

My little sister said, "Why don't you get a skunk?"
I told her I think that's the worst idea anyone's ever thunk!

It seems like the perfect animal is really hard to pick!
Maybe the best one would be a little baby chick?

I must think about this for just a little while more.
It's too hard to just pick one; will my parents let me choose four?

My mom said she was thinking more like a cat or a dog!
Or maybe it could be a gerbil or a frog.

Let's go to the animal shelter and see what needs a good home.
As for all the other animals, let them be wild and free and let them roam.

We went to the shelter and picked out two!
A cat named Pinky and a dog named Blue.

Both had been abandoned and left to die.
It broke my heart and made me cry!

So if your parents ever let you get a pet,
Head to a shelter and save some lives and have no regret!

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Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .

"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
http://www.MoscowCares.com
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Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

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Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2019 05:34:55 -0800
From: Moscow Cares <moscowcares at moscow.com>
To: Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Subject: [Vision2020] No religious test
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?Courtesy of today?s (November 3, 2019) Lewiston Tribune with special thanks to Mary Jo Hamilton.

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No religious test

At the Moscow League of Women Voters candidate forum, James Urquidez made some statements that were truly disturbing and raised a red flag about his candidacy.

In discussing religion and government, he brought up Christ Church and Doug Wilson?s stated mission of ?making Moscow a Christian town.?

Urquidez said, ?That?s the battle cry of every religion. Muslims want everyone to be Muslim.?

It seems as a candidate he sees nothing wrong in using the ballot to make Moscow a Christian town, thus undermining the spirit of inclusivity and freedom that welcomes and respects a wide spectrum of faiths, cultures and beliefs.

Urquidez went on to say, ?There?s a big population of Christians in the town that I think need to be represented on city council.?

That?s even scarier. It seems Urquidez thinks we should vote according to the candidate?s religious belief and perhaps have representation on council according to size of a faith affiliation.

I believe that everyone is free to follow the religious organization of his choice, and religious affiliation should not be a factor in choosing an elected official.

I want to elect council members who make decisions based on knowledge of the issue, input from Moscow citizens and a good working knowledge of how cities are most efficiently run for the benefit of all of Moscow?s citizens.

Religious beliefs have no place in these deliberations. Please vote for candidates Anne Zabala, Sandra Kelly and Maureen Laflin, who support openness and diversity in Moscow?s town and government.

Mary Jo Hamilton
Moscow

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Courtesy of the Moscow League of Women Voters? City Council Candidates Forum (October 23, 2019)

Question:? I have heard some people express some concern in that Moscow might become a theocracy.? I have heard some other people express concern about antiphony toward conservative religions.? Do you share these concerns.? And if you do , what role, if any, should the city council get involved?

Responses . . .

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs5bobIOSBc&feature=youtu.be

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Seeya at the polls, Moscow, because . . .

"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
http://www.MoscowCares.com
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Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

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