[Vision2020] Fw: greed

Tue Oct 21 19:48:52 PDT 2014

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Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

> On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:28 PM, lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote:
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> What bothers me is that they do not take no for an answer. They start at something like $200 and keep coming down. One can not give to every cause. Most of the calls I receive during the day are solicitation. Therefore I do not answer the phone. If it is someone I need to talk to they will leave a message. I do donations only by mail not over the phone.
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> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: greed
> From: "Paul Rumelhart" <paul.rumelhart at gmail.com>
> To: "Sue Hovey" <suehovey at moscow.com>
> Date: 10/22/14 03:25:46
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> I can never tell any more which of my (to me) reasonable-sounding posts will ignite a firestorm on this list.
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> The phrase "heartless bastard" is what I feel like when I tell the nice people on the phone that I won't be giving to their good cause, at least at that time. That's one of the reasons I hate it when charities solicit like that. It feels manipulative, and I don't like it. On the other hand, I don't know what to tell them, other than to back off a little.
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>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com> wrote:
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>> There's nothing there that makes you "sound like a heartless bastard." Are you insisting? Sorry, but I make my own evaluations.  
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>> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 3:53 PM
>> To: Scott Dredge 
>> Cc: lfalen ; Sue Hovey ; Ron Force ; Tom Hansen ; Vision 2020 
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: greed
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>> This is a huge pet peeve of mine. Some charities are not so bad, I gave some money to globalgiving.org for Japan tsunami relief, and they didn't flood me with solicitations (maybe once a year or so I get something from them in an email). Give some money to certain charities associated with breast cancer, children's cancer, or some of the Native American groups, and you'll never hear the end of it. They are all worthy recipients of my hard-earned cash, but *I* like to be the one who decides when and to whom I give charity to. I don't just sit around waiting to see who can best convince me of their worth. I do the research on my own. I'm sure that makes me sound like a heartless bastard, but I'm beyond caring any more what people on this list think of me.
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>> I think I'll switch to anonymous donations, too.
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>>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Scott Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> I donated to DAV years ago and now they've spent more money than I gave them mailing me solicitation letters asking me to give them more money. It's very disappointing. They're not the only ones who engage in this tactic and it's become a secondary reason of why I have now switched to making one-time only anonymous donations. 
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>>> > Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 17:27:24 -0700
>>> > To: suehovey at moscow.com; rforce2003 at yahoo.com; thansen at moscow.com
>>> > From: lfalen at turbonet.com
>>> > CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
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>>> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: greed
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>>> > Don't feel too bad about it Sue. While the information may not have been up to date. Those with a poor rating were still not vary good in the Snopes piece and those listed as good were still fairly good in the Snopes article. One charity that consistently has a high rating by Charity Navigator is Doctors Without Borders.
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>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: greed
>>> > From: "Sue Hovey" <suehovey at moscow.com>
>>> > To: "Ron Force" <rforce2003 at yahoo.com>, "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
>>> > Date: 10/21/14 00:29:50
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>>> > Oh, dear. I am so sorry. I got this from a trusted friend whose face is going to be VERY red when I send him this Snopes piece. Thanks so much Ron for the information. Sue hovey From: Ron Force Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 7:13 PMTo: Tom Hansen ; Sue Hovey Cc: Vision 2020 Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: greed You may wish to refer to the following documentation from snopes.com, which says the information is either outdated and/or outright false:
>>> > snopes.com: Executive Salaries in Charities snopes.com: Executive Salaries in CharitiesArticle compares the salaries of top executives of several large charitable organizations. View on www.snopes.comPreview by YahooRon Force
>>> > Moscow Idaho USA
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>>> > On Sunday, October 19, 2014 3:44 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
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>>> > Although there is one national organizations to whom we donate . . . Disabled American Veterans (of which I am a member) . . . Moscow Cares primarily donates locally and regularly . . . Humane Society of the Palouse . . . Sojourners Alliance . . . Trinity Moscow Food Pantry . . . Alternative to Violence of the Palouse . . . Heart of the Arts, Inc . . . Palouse Habitat for Humanity . . . Latah County Human Rights Task Force . . . to name just a few. We prefer local donations knowing that 100% of the donation will go toward the purpose for which it was intended. We have, and always will encourage contributions to local entities (I dislike the word "charity"). After all . . . "That's What Friends are For"http://www.TomandRodna.com/Songs/What_Friends_are_for.mp3Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . ."Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants
>>> > on)http://www.MoscowCares.com Tom HansenMoscow, Idaho On Oct 19, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com> wrote: A message worth sharing from Bill Frye, who never sends me anything irrelevant. Sue H. From: William Frye Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 12:22 PMTo: Bill Pryor ; Harold Munson ; Arthur Armstrong ; Syd Brown ; Sue Hovey ; John Cutmore Subject: Fw: greed                    A timely reminder before our generous spirits open up ourwallets… How many ways can you spell G R E E D? THINK BEFORE YOUDONATE! SOMETHING TOTHINK ABOUT BEFORE YOU MAKECONTRIBUTIONS: Asyou open your pockets to do a good thing and make yourselffeel good, please keep the following facts inmind: TheAmerican Red CrossPresident and CEO Marsha J.Evans' salary for the year was $651,957plus expenses MARCH OFDIMESIt is called the March
>>> > ofDimes because only a dime forevery 1 dollar is given to theneedy. TheUnited WayPresident BrianGallagher receives a $375,000 base salaryalong with numerous expense benefits. UNICEFCEO Caryl M. Sternreceives $1,200,000 per year (100kper month) plus all expenses including a ROLLSROYCE. Less than 5cents of your donated dollar goes to thecause. GOODWILL CEO and owner Mark Curranprofits $2.3 million a year.Goodwill is avery catchy name for his business. You donate to his businessand then he sells the items forPROFIT. He pays nothingfor his products and pays his workers minimum wage!Nice Guy. INSERT:CONTENT:END.00 goes tohelp anyone! Stop giving to thisman. Instead, give it to ANY OF THEFOLLOWINGGO "GREEN" ANDPUT YOUR MONEY WHERE IT WILL DO SOME GOOD: TheSalvation ArmyCommissioner, Todd Bassettreceives a small salary of only $13,000 per year(plus housing) formanaging this
>>> > $2 billion dollarorganization.96 percent of donated dollars goto the cause. TheAmerican LegionNational Commander receivesa INSERT:CONTENT:END.00 zerosalary. Your donations go to helpVeterans and their families and youth! TheVeterans of Foreign WarsNational Commander receivesa INSERT:CONTENT:END.00 zerosalary. Your donations go to helpVeterans and their families and youth! TheDisabled American VeteransNational Commander receivesa INSERT:CONTENT:END.00 zerosalary. Your donations go to helpVeterans and their families and youth! TheMilitary Order of PurpleHeartsNational Commander receives aINSERT:CONTENT:END.00 zero salary. Your donations go to helpVeterans and their families and youth! TheVietnam Veterans AssociationNational Commander receivesa INSERT:CONTENT:END.00 zerosalary. Your donations go to helpVeterans and their families and youth! Make aWish: For children's
>>> > lastwishes. 100% goes to funding trips orspecial wishes for a dying child.St. JudeResearch Hospital100% goes towards funding andhelping Children with Cancer who have no insurance andcannot afford to pay.RonaldMcDonald HousesAll monies go to runningthe houses for parents who have critically illChildren in the hospital.100% goes to housing, and feedingthe families.LionsClub International100% OF DONATIONS GO TO HELP THEBLIND, BUY HEARING AIDES, SUPPORT MEDICAL MISSIONSAROUND THE WORLD. THEIR LATESTUNDERTAKINGIS MEASLES VACCINATIONS(ONLY $1.00 PER SHOT).Please sharethis with everyone you can. =======================================================List services made available by First Step Internet,serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. http://www.fsr.net 
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