[Vision2020] more guns on campus

[Gary Crabtree]

I think that you are confused, Mr. Hanson. The change in the law only
affects the two previously mentioned groups. A student without an ECWP
or, who is not retired LE is subject to the same rules as before. There is
precious little need to be holding vigil.

g


On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:

> An incident involving a student and a gun in his/her possession, Mr.
> Crabtree.
>
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
> http://www.MoscowCares.com <http://www.moscowcares.com/>
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still.
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>
> - John Lennon
>
>
> On Mar 27, 2014, at 4:02 PM, Gary Crabtree <moscowlocksmith at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> An incident committed by a retired law enforcement officer or the holder
> of a valid enhanced Idaho state CWP as per the change in the law? I'm
> willing to bet long odds on not any time soon (if ever)
>
> g
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
>
>> Jus' for the heck of it . . .
>>
>> How many gun-related incidents have there been on the University of Idaho
>> campus in the past ten years?  Twenty years?  Fifty Years?  One hundred
>> years?
>>
>> Next question . . .
>>
>> How long will it be until there is a gun-related incident on the
>> University of Idaho campus?
>>
>> Start your watches, V-Peeps.
>>
>> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
>>
>> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
>> http://www.MoscowCares.com <http://www.moscowcares.com/>
>>
>> Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>
>> "There's room at the top they are telling you still.
>> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,
>> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>>
>> - John Lennon
>>
>>
>> On Mar 27, 2014, at 2:25 PM, Gary Crabtree <moscowlocksmith at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Why was the law forbidding concealed firearms on campus so much more
>> effective in protecting your "dh" that the much more stringent law that
>> forbids shooting others without an extremely good reason. The person who
>> will obey the first will almost certainly obey the second. The one that
>> disregards the second will laugh at the first.
>>
>> g
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Saundra Lund <v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm>wrote:
>>
>>> I know of a couple of professors who were here interviewing for a
>>> position around the time Otter signed the bill and both were absolutely
>>> aghast.  Both subsequently declined the position.  Was it because of the
>>> guns on campus debacle?  Who knows, but that certainly did not help based
>>> on the reactions.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My dh is considering no longer meeting in person with students in his
>>> office once this goes into effect - they can contact him via phone or email
>>> during his office hours.  You know how those Idaho legislators think they
>>> deserve special treatment because they sometimes have to deal with hostile
>>> constituents therefore they don't need no stinking permits?  I have no
>>> sympathy for them given their absolute love of Red Meat politics, but they
>>> have nothing on professors who have to deal with unhinged students certain
>>> that a poor grade on an assignment is going to ruin their career
>>> opportunities for the rest of their lives, etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> He's half-joking, but I'm not.  I'm glad he'll be retiring sooner rather
>>> than later.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Great job, Idaho, of finding new creative ways of killing education -
>>> those of you who worship at the 2A alter must be so proud.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Disgusting.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Saundra
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:
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>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 27, 2014 8:30 AM
>>> *To:* vision2020 at moscow.com
>>> *Subject:* [Vision2020] more guns on campus
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I was speaking with some of my professor friends yesterday. I asked, "If
>>> you are allowed to make classroom rules such as no cell phones, no computer
>>> games, no eating, how is it that you won't be able to say "no guns in my
>>> classroom?" I suggested going to the union and having a statewide walkout.
>>> Instead, two of these friends, who are extremely capable and long term
>>> professors said they are applying for posts in other states. For them, this
>>> is the straw (disrespect) that is breaking the camel's back.
>>>
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