[Vision2020] Pub Owner Sparks Outrage With Sign Banning Concealed Weapons

Wed Mar 19 19:42:03 PDT 2014

Here in Arizona, one not need have a concealed weapon permit, as it is not
required by law. A gun, concealed, or not, can be carried almost anywhere.
However, there are restricted places where concealed weapons are not
allowed. BARS, SCHOOLS, including universities, (if it is against their
rules), inside jails, at a polling place on election day.. (not sure if AZ
serves alcohol on election day..) Also, a private business may put a sign
up. "Firearms not allowed in this building" Which is common in medical
buildings, and some stores.

Maricopa County is a very violent place to live.  Recently, there was an
incident downtown, where 3-4 men robbed a strip club. Things got out of
hand and ran a muck, as they often do in these kind of situations. A
Phoenix Police Officer was shot, as was one of Sheriff Joe's off duty posse
members... Sad thing was, one of the men grew up in Moscow, and at one
time, had a promising basketball career in front of him, until life
intervened.

Someone stole from a shopping mall, and some guy drew his gun and shot him.
I could go on and on..

To be honest, seldom to do I think of being shot by someone. People are
going to get a gun regardless if they need to apply for a permit or not..
Just like hard drugs, the guns are here. I'm more concerned about the crazy
drivers behind the wheel of a multi-ton weapon, than a gun in the hand of
someone. Most of the gun deaths down here are someone shooting somebody
they know... That said.. I never go out after dark.

Oh, one more thing which happened recently. On facebook, there are groups
of people who have online garage sales.. So, I joined one in my area..
There were 8k people in this group. On the SECOND day, some guy puts up an
ad for 9 GUNS!! Two were semi-automatic. I looked at those guns and
wondered where they had been and where they were going.. the guy selling
them had a thuggish look to him. Am I prejudging him by his looks? With 9
guns for sale, I think not! I kind of freaked out, called the police, and
was told it was legal. Quit that facebook group then and there. It is
supposed to be against facebook policy to sells guns in these groups.
However, there is no definitive way to report guns being for sale.

I don't drink, but if I did, there is no way I'd go into a bar of crazy
drunk people. I used to tend bar at The Garden, and North Idaho Cowboy Bar
in Troy.. people who are normally very nice when sober, can, and do get
ornery as a bear in a bee hive after two too many.

Hope everyone is well, and your first day of Spring is a warm one!
Janesta

On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:

> And those businesses who refuse to do business with certain people, based
> upon that business' "religious convuctions"?
>
> [image: image.gif]
>
>
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
> http://www.MoscowCares.com <http://www.moscowcares.com/>
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still.
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>
> - John Lennon
>
>
> On Mar 19, 2014, at 6:28 PM, Dan Carscallen <areaman at moscow.com> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure why anyone who exercises his right to carry would want to
> support a business that didn't support their right to carry.
>
> If I don't like the policies of a business, I won't spend money there.
>  And if a business doesn't like a certain type of activity, I think they
> have the right to refuse service to anyone.
>
> At least that's my opinion
>
> DC
>
> On Mar 19, 2014, at 16:14, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
>
> Courtesy of Opposing Views at:
>
>
> http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/guns/pub-owner-sparks-outrage-sign-banning-concealed-weapons-his-bar
>
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> Pub Owner Sparks Outrage With Sign Banning Concealed Weapons
>
> A South Carolina pub owner is facing intense public backlash after he
> posted a sign forbidding patrons from bringing concealed weapons into his
> bar.
>
> "NO CONCEALED WEAPONS ALLOWED," the sign reads. "If you are such a loser
> that you feel a need to carry a gun with you when you go out, I do not want
> your business. Douchebag."
>
> The sign started bringing negative attention to Backstreets Pub & Deli
> when the website Twitchy grabbed an image of it<http://twitchy.com/2014/03/18/who-are-the-douchebags-you-wont-believe-this-clemson-sc-pubs-sneering-sign-slamming-gun-owners-pics/> off
> of Twitter. Hundreds of gun rights supporters have since taken to Yelp and
> hammered the pub with poor reviews.
>
> "Not allowing law abiding permit holding background checked conceal carry
> permit holders into your establishment is begging for criminals to come in
> and make an easy target out of you," one reviewer wrote.
>
> "So, you would even insult the soldiers that fought for your freedom and
> right to post that offensive sign?" a reviewer named Tim asked. "Would you
> say the same thing to a police officer? I guess you have the right to be an
> idiot as well. God bless America, the Constitution and the Second
> Amendment."
>
> The bar owner, identified as Pete, says the he is a concealed carry permit
> holder himself. He just doesn't think guns belong in a college town like
> Clemson.
>
> "There are cops everywhere," he said. "Cameras everywhere. Guns have no
> place in a college town."
>
> Pete told the Washington Times<http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/18/sc-pub-sparks-outrage-sign-calling-gun-owners-lose/?fdhksaa#.Uyie8W61qhY.twitter> that
> he stands behind the sign's policy, but he regrets the language used on the
> sign.
>
> "I'm sorry I used that language," he said. "It just came out wrong because
> I was frustrated."
>
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> The sign
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>
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
> http://www.MoscowCares.com <http://www.moscowcares.com/>
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still.
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>
> - John Lennon
>
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