[Vision2020] guns on campus

[Scott Dredge]

You forgot to add 'Nuff Said!' which still leaves this thread dangling for someone to post an informed counterpoint although Area Man had already pre-emptively addressed this.

From: thansen at moscow.com
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 10:24:29 -0800
To: bear at moscow.com
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] guns on campus

BULL-SH*T, Mr. Price.
During the course of public commentary last week, related to this bill, it was divulged that there is NOTHING in the bill that prevents on-campus open-carry.
Care to share (a direct quote from the bill) otherwise?
Qualification to obtain a concealed-carry permit amounts to nothing more than a clean record and completion of an 8-hour course (I'm not sure if that includes lunch or not)
What a joke!
Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)http://www.MoscowCares.com  Tom HansenMoscow, Idaho
"There's room at the top they are telling you still.But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
- John Lennon  
On Mar 7, 2014, at 10:10 AM, Wayne Price <bear at moscow.com> wrote:

"A straw man, also known in the UK as an Aunt Sally, is a common type of argument and is an informal fallacy based on the misrepresentation of the original topic of argument. To be successful, a straw man argument requires that the audience be ignorant or uninformed of the original argument.The so-called typical "attacking a straw man" implies an adversarial, polemic, or combative debate, and creates the illusion of having completely refuted or defeated an opponent's proposition by covertly replacing it with a different proposition (i.e., "stand up a straw man") and then to refute or defeat that false argument, ("knock down a straw man,") instead of the original proposition."And when a student enters a classroom and places his (or her)  pocket knife on his (or her)  desk how are the other students in the classroom expected to react?  Or a water bottle that might contain nitroglycerin?  The legislature has spoken or don't you like the system of laws in the United States? The Fraternal Order of Police, and the Idaho Sheriff's Association have both backed this legislation or do you think that they don't know what they're talking about? Would you rather have an unelected state or city employee making the decision?
READ the actual legislation and see what it says. First of all, you have to have the enhanced permit or be a retired law enforcement officer. That means you're at least over 21 IF you have the permit. And there is 8 hours of training, and a specific range component to getting the permit. Don't you trust adults? And for all of the up roar over this issue, how many people are we actually talking about that are carrying, as opposed to a mythical number of how many could qualify to carry legally?

'nuff said


On Mar 7, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Tom Hansen wrote:When a student enters a classroom and places his Glock-9 on his desk, how are the other students in the classroom expected to react?

Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)http://www.MoscowCares.com  Tom HansenMoscow, Idaho
"There's room at the top they are telling you still.But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
- John Lennon  
On Mar 7, 2014, at 9:23 AM, "rhayes at frontier.com" <rhayes at frontier.com> wrote:

Let's all see what Butch Otter is made of. Anyone want to bet?
Meanwhile: People who work with students at U of I and other schools are rearranging their furniture to allow a quicker retreat from students carrying guns. And...local police are contemplating how to tell the good gun totters from the bad ones. And...there will be a rush to get enhanced permits at Tri-State and elsewhere, because, you know, everyone thinks they are the "good guys."And...the lawyers at the universities will be mulling over institutional culpability when the impossible happens. And...ALEC and the NRA will gleefully be carving another notch in their guns.And we will take another step toward anarchy.This is "for mad men only."
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