[Vision2020] Fwd: CNN Breaking News

Mon Jun 30 16:09:11 PDT 2014

I'll combine responses.

Sunil writes:
<So Scott, you're saying we can't express opinions about the Court's rulings?>

You can express opinions, they just won't trump the Court's majority opinion.

Tom write:
<It's not like women are REAL people . . . like corporations, right?>

Women are real people.  Corporations are comprised of real people.  Therein lies the problem.  That's why we have a Supreme Court deciding Constitutionality of restrictions and enforcements.  The Supreme Court is also comprised of people.  Therein also lies another problem specifically when they deliver an opinion that you disagree with.  FWIW, I don't concur with the majority opinion on this case.

Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fwd: CNN Breaking News
From: thansen at moscow.com
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 15:47:01 -0700
CC: godshatter at yahoo.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
To: scooterd408 at hotmail.com

You may be on to something, Mr. Dredge . . . 
It's not like women are REAL people . . . like corporations, right?
Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)http://www.MoscowCares.com  Tom HansenMoscow, Idaho
"There's room at the top they are telling you still.But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
- John Lennon  
On Jun 30, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Scott Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com> wrote:

If the Supreme Court says it's OK for the Christian Scientists to not provide any health insurance, then it's case closed.  No Jeesh necessary.

From: thansen at moscow.com
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 13:48:37 -0700
To: godshatter at yahoo.com
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fwd: CNN Breaking News

So . . .
If a Christian Science family that runs a business decides not to provide ANY health insurance to their employees, Mr. Rumelhart is ok with those employees paying for health care out of their own pockets "on a cash-only basis".
JEEEEEEEEESH !
Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)http://www.MoscowCares.com  Tom HansenMoscow, Idaho
"There's room at the top they are telling you still.But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
- John Lennon  
On Jun 30, 2014, at 1:33 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:

"Suppose the family is staunch believers in a religion that simply does not believe in health care in ANY form.  What then?"
I have no problem with someone opting out of the system.  If they want to eschew all insurance benefits and pay for medical services on a cash-only basis, why should I care?
Paul
        From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> To: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> Cc: Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>  Sent:  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fwd: CNN Breaking News   For now (June 30, 2014)' that's how it stands.HOWEVER, . . .There are several
 other cases "waiting in the wings" concerning coverage for various medications, treatments, operations, etc. etc. etc.Give it six months (if that long) and let's see.Jus' a thought, but . . .Suppose the family is staunch believers in a religion that simply does not believe in health care in ANY form.  What then?Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . ."Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants
 on)http://www.MoscowCares.com  Tom HansenMoscow, Idaho"There's room at the top they are telling you still.But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,If you want to be like the folks on the hill."- John Lennon  On Jun 30, 2014, at 9:41 AM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:"If a company does not care to provide *free contraceptives* to its employees,
 all it needs to do is . . . shuffle corporate paperwork around, making 
the company appear as family-owned . . . and claim a strongly religious 
foundation."Fixed that for you.  Paul      From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> To:
 Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>  Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 7:56 AM Subject: [Vision2020] Fwd: CNN Breaking News   The flood gates have opened, courtesy of a 5-4 SCOTUS vote.http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/30/politics/scotus-obamacare-contraception/index.html?hpt=hp_t1-------------------------"The political stakes are large, especially for the future effectiveness of the health law, which marks its fourth anniversary this year.The botched rollout last fall of HealthCare.gov, the federal Obamacare website, has become another political flashpoint along with other issues that many Republicans say proves the law is unworkable.They have made Obamacare a key campaign issue in their fight to overtake the Senate,
 and retain control of the House.Supporters of the law fear a high court setback on the contraception mandate will lead to other healthcare challenges on religion grounds, such as do-not-resuscitate orders and vaccine coverage. More broadly, many worry giving corporations religious freedom rights could affect laws on employment, safety, and civil rights."-------------------------If a company does not care to provide health insurance to its employees, all it needs to do is . . . shuffle corporate paperwork around, making the company appear as family-owned . . . and claim a strongly
 religious foundation.Being retired Army, all I can say is . . . Thank God for Tri-Care!Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . ."Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)http://www.MoscowCares.com  Tom HansenMoscow, Idaho"There's room at the top they are telling you still.But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,If you want to be like the folks on the hill."- John Lennon  Begin forwarded message:From: CNN Breaking News<BreakingNews at mail.cnn.com>Date: June 30, 2014 at 7:29:44 AM PDTTo: textbreakingnews at ema3lsv06.turner.comSubject: CNN Breaking News
The Supreme Court today sided with Christian-owned companies that don't want to pay for some types of contraceptives for their employees.

The owners of Hobby Lobby, furniture maker Conestoga Wood Specialties and Christian bookseller Mardel argued that the Affordable Care Act violates the First Amendment and other federal laws protecting religious freedom because it requires them to provide coverage for contraceptives like the "morning-after pill," which the companies consider tantamount to abortion.

 The decision may serve as a primer for other pending challenges to the health law championed by President Barack Obama.

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