[Vision2020] FW: Solidarity with Ferguson

Mon Aug 25 07:50:38 PDT 2014

Paul's waiting for  more actual facts before he gets enraged over this.

Paul

On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Saundra Lund <v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm>
wrote:

>  Glad to see you're sticking to type, Scott, with your predictable denial
> that race has anything to do with anything.  I put that in the same
> category as the idiotic comment you made that felons don't have problems
> finding jobs & housing.  Just plain ignorant and living in some imaginary
> World According to Scott that has no connection to reality.
>
> For me, there are lots of things that concern me about Ferguson, and yes,
> race is one of the things, although not necessarily with respect to the
> actual killing of Mike Brown Jr.  That's a question I don't think will ever
> be answered.
>
> But, the fact of the matter -- for me -- is I think anyone who isn't
> concerned when police shoot & kill unarmed people is an idiot.  That
> concern doesn't necessarily mean that the killing was dirty, but to not
> concerned?  Idiotic.  I actually think gun-wielding agents of the State
> have a higher duty to preserve life than do thugs.  Go figure.
>
> I also think Ferguson gave the whole country -- at least those not living
> under rocks --  a good picture of the real life consequences of
> the militarization of the police.  Paul, I think, has posted on that topic
> a few times, so it's . . . curious to me he didn't bring up the topic with
> such a great real world example.
>
> There are several other significant concerns, but I really don't see much
> reason to engage in discussion with you since you predictably want to boil
> everything down to "race baiting."
>
>
> Saundra
>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014, at 01:50 PM, Scott Dredge wrote:
>
> I'd guess they will show up in droves. Race baiting and anti-establishment
> sentiment are effective in mobilizing young people who are more driven by
> peer pressure and emotion in jumping to conclusions rather than rationally
> waiting for all for the facts surrounding this tragic event to emerge and
> coming to an informed opinion.
>
> As for me, I'll keep an open mind that this could be 'racist cop shoots
> and kills black kid minding his own business', but until I'm convinced
> beyond a reasonable doubt I won't be rendering a verdict.
>
> -Scott
>
> On Aug 24, 2014, at 3:12 PM, "Saundra Lund" <v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm>
> wrote:
>
> Here’s hoping our local college students make me proud  J  I’ve given my
> hubby a head’s up to be aware & hopeful that some of his students walk out
> tomorrow morning and to not take it personally  J
>
>
> I’m curious:  is anyone here planning on going to Spokane Tuesday to
> participate in the rally?
>
>
>
> Saundra
>
>
> *From:* Amnesty International USA [mailto:alerts at takeaction.amnestyusa.org
> <alerts at takeaction.amnestyusa.org>]
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 24, 2014 9:59 AM
> *To:*
> *Subject:* Solidarity with Ferguson
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> *Solidarity with Ferguson, Missouri*
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> A police officer in Ferguson, Missouri fatally shot unarmed teenager
> Michael Brown on August 9.
>
> This week, the Ferguson community is asking us to take to the streets.
>
> Dear Saundra & Bill,
>
> On August 9, Mike Brown, an unarmed 18-year old, was shot by a police
> officer in Ferguson, Missouri. It’s moments like this that draw us in, and
> that demand solidarity, because all lives matter and human rights are at
> stake.
>
> You have taken action online. Now, the Ferguson community is asking for us
> to take to the streets:
>
>    - On Monday, August 25, Mike Brown's family is laying him to rest. *Ferguson
>    community members are asking college students to walk out of their classes
>    at 1pm EST/10am PST
>    <http://www.e-activist.com/ea-campaign/broadcast.response.do?ea.url.id=273188&ea.campaigner.email=BAD5ZdktWlKbKzOfDY5p9fmkGi65H1302t8RM2eLScw=&ea_broadcast_target_id=0>
>    and assemble in solidarity with victims and survivors of police brutality.
>    Will you join them?
>    <http://www.e-activist.com/ea-campaign/broadcast.response.do?ea.url.id=273189&ea.campaigner.email=BAD5ZdktWlKbKzOfDY5p9fmkGi65H1302t8RM2eLScw=&ea_broadcast_target_id=0>*
>    - For the rest of the week, people around the world are rallying at
>    U.S. federal buildings and U.S. embassies to *call on the Department
>    of Justice to create policies that respect human rights*. We'll be
>    joining, and we want you to stand with us and with the people of Ferguson
>    in your own communities. *Find a rally here!
>    <http://www.e-activist.com/ea-campaign/broadcast.response.do?ea.url.id=273190&ea.campaigner.email=BAD5ZdktWlKbKzOfDY5p9fmkGi65H1302t8RM2eLScw=&ea_broadcast_target_id=0>*
>
> Since arriving in Ferguson, we have witnessed hundreds of people take to
> the streets daily to demand human rights. We have also seen law enforcement
> use tear gas in the crowd, and arrest protestors. There have been blockades
> on West Florissant Street for days; journalists have been cleared from the
> area, and we’ve been kept from full access to protestors at times.
> Throughout all of this, we’ve been in awe of the power and resilience of
> community organizers on the ground who have refused to have their
> fundamental human rights restricted, and have dedicated themselves to
> sharing Mike Brown’s story and to demanding change.
>
> Now is the time for us to join in raising concerns about race and
> policing, and the impact of militarization on the fundamental right to
> peacefully assemble. Now is the time to bring together your community to
> participate in the movement to bring human rights home.
>
> In Solidarity,
>
> Kalaya'an Mendoza, Senior Organizer
> Noor Mir, Associate Field Organizer
> Amnesty International USA Delegates in Ferguson, MO
>
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