[Vision2020] Authorization/Approval ?

Fri Sep 6 14:25:36 PDT 2013

Yes, I'm aware that the Constitution has been abused in this way before.

I was *hoping* that would *change* with this President.

Since our President seemed bound and determined to do this without Congressional authority and was only shamed into it when his support numbers polled so low and doesn't appear to want to answer the question of whether or not he will attack Syria if Congress turns him down, then I am forced to conclude that I going to be let down once again by him.

I am disappoint.

Paul

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The last time the U.S. went to war was in WWII. Since then we have had military actions in, just to name a few, Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Lebanon, Iraq, Bosnia, Cuba, Afghanistan, Nicaragua, El Salvador, and Grenada. He is asking for authorization not approval. Just like Bush I and II did.  
A bit of material here: 
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I just wanted to throw down a little rant here about how the media is portraying the Syria situation.

From what I've seen, they all characterize the President going to Congress as him asking for "approval" to attack Syria.? Shouldn't he be asking for "authorization" instead?? Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution gives the ability to declare war to Congress.? The War Powers Resolution of 1973 states that the President can commit the US to an armed conflict only if authorized by Congress or in the case of  "a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces."? We haven't been attacked by Syria, so if the President orders an attack on Syria without authorization by Congress to do so, he would be acting illegally.? 

Is that correct?? What might I be missing that would give him the authority to attack Syria without authorization by Congress, as
 he originally intended to do?? 

I'll be very interested in this question if Congress turns him down and he goes ahead and authorizes an attack on Syria anyway.

Paul
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