[Vision2020] Memory (was Where were you . . .)
Kai Eiselein
fotopro63 at hotmail.com
Mon Nov 18 23:00:12 PST 2013
I have absolutely no recollection of where I was or what I was doing.
I can only guess that I may been in my crib dropping a load in my diapers since I was all of three months old.
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> From: v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm
> To: chasuk at gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 22:53:42 -0800
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: [Vision2020] Memory (was Where were you . . .)
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> Again, I know human memory is fallible, and I know a bit about false
> memories, the physiology & psychology of memory, etc.
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> What was interesting to me was your . . . willingness to
> denying/dismissing the memories/experiences of your chrono-peers simply
> because your experience was different than were theirs, and by
> extension, mine. You know, some people, and that includes children,
> simply have better memories than do others, at least about some things
> – that much has been demonstrated time & again. That, it seems to me,
> is perhaps a more respectful and valid explanation than denigrating
> those with experiences different than your own as examples of the
> inaccuracy of human memory.
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> Food for thought . . . or not ☺
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> From: Chasuk [mailto:chasuk at gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 1:34 AM
> To: Saundra Lund
> Cc: Tom Hansen; Vision2020
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Where were you . . .
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> There are many people who believe they remember things that they don't.
> I'm no saying that you are one of those people; I have no way of making
> that judgement with any claim to accuracy. However, memories are
> trivial to manufacture and implant, whether accidentally or on
> purpose. This has been demonstrated many times.
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> We were born within only a few weeks of each other, so you might have
> been subjected to the same teary-eyed reminiscences of the
> assassination as I was, usually during Profiles of Courage book
> reports.
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> On Nov 18, 2013 6:15 PM, "Saundra Lund"
> <v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm<mailto:v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm>> wrote:
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> While I agree that human memory is flawed, I don’t know that I agree
> with your sweeping generalization about the inaccuracy of human memory.
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> I was in OKC & was about five weeks shy of my third birthday. I was at
> home with my mother, who was watching her soaps while ironing. She’d
> just gotten her bag of sprinkled clothes out of the fridge when the
> tragedy hit the air. I had absolutely no understanding of the actual
> event, but my mother’s reaction is something I clearly recall – it was
> the first time I ever saw her cry – even if I didn’t understand The
> Bigger Picture.
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> From:
> vision2020-bounces at moscow.com<mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com>
> [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com<mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com>]
> On Behalf Of Chasuk
> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 9:47 PM
> To: Tom Hansen
> Cc: Vision2020
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Where were you . . .
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> I was also in California, five days before my 3rd birthday. I don't
> remember the assassination, but I do remember the countless stories
> from my chrono-peers who all thought that they did. It was my first
> lesson on the inaccuracy of human memory.
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> On Nov 18, 2013 12:29 PM, "Tom Hansen"
> <thansen at moscow.com<mailto:thansen at moscow.com>> wrote:
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> . . . on November 22, 1963?
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> I was in the 7th grade at Robert Fulton Junior High School in Van Nuys,
> California.
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> The news of Kennedy's assassination was received at about 11:00 AM.
> Some of the teachers were visibly shaken by the news. The school
> closed down for the day at noon.
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> Do you remember where you were when . . .
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
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