[Vision2020] And the beat goes on . . .

[Paul Rumelhart]

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to question your enthusiasm.  It's just that I don't see an average of 83 posts a day from you on this subject, one for each event where someone dies due to the involvement of a firearm.

I'm tending to think of this in terms of reactions by authorities as akin to domestic terrorism.  An event happens in a public venue and it turns into what's known in professional circles as a "media shitstorm".  We can either choose to react emotionally to these situations like we did as a country to 9/11, or we can take a deep look at the problem and see if there is a solution that we could put into place in concordance with the relative threat level of the event.

There is a real danger here, because authorities like events that give them an excuse to grab more power, with our "best interests" at heart.  I don't wish to lose any more civil liberties because of someone's fear that I need to be more "secure".

Paul

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On Fri, 11/1/13, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Vision2020] And the beat goes on . . .
 To: "Paul Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com>
 Cc: "Scott Dredge" <scooterd408 at hotmail.com>, "viz" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
 Date: Friday, November 1, 2013, 11:43 AM
 
 Suddenly get
 concerned about guns, Mr. Rumelhart???
 I have been concerned about the inappropriate use
 of guns longer than I have been retired from the Army.
  I have voiced my concern several times right here on
 the Viz.
 As far as information is concerned, CNN
 television is reporting one casualty (a TSA employee), 3-4
 injured, suspect (and his assault rifle) has been
 apprehended.
 LAPD, LAX PD, and LA Fire Department are
 currently conducting an investigation.
 Ok?
 Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . .
 .
 "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can
 have with your pants on)http://www.MoscowCares.com  Tom
 HansenMoscow, Idaho
 "There's
 room at the top they are telling you still But first you must learn how to
 smile as you kill 
 If
 you want to be like the folks on the
 hill."
 -
 John Lennon
  
 
 On Nov 1, 2013, at 10:57 AM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
 wrote:
 
 I'll never
 understand this fascination with highly-publicized
 shootings.
 
 If today is an average day, and the averages for 2013
 are in line with 2010, then 33 people will die today in the
 US due to a firearm-related homicide, 49 will die in a
 firearm-related suicide, and one will die due to an
 unintentional shooting.
 
 Yet it's these highly-publicized shootings that
 cause people to suddenly get concerned about guns,
 oftentimes long before any reliable information can be found
 about what even happened, let alone any other related
 information pertinent to the issue of guns in
 America.
 
 Paul
 
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 On Fri, 11/1/13, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
 wrote:
 
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] And the beat goes on . .
 .
  To: "Scott Dredge" <scooterd408 at hotmail.com>
  Cc: "viz" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
  Date: Friday, November 1, 2013, 10:38 AM
 
  So, tell us,
  Scott . . .
  What do you consider to be an acceptable body
  count?
 
  Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . .
  .
  "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you
 can
  have with your pants on)http://www.MoscowCares.com  Tom
  HansenMoscow, Idaho
  "There's
  room at the top they are telling you still But
 first you must learn how to
  smile as you kill 
  If
  you want to be like the folks on the