[Vision2020] U.S. intelligence mining data from nine U.S. Internet companies in broad secret program

[Joe Campbell]

So there was 9-11. That justified the decades+ war on terrorism, but of
course the terrorist persists. If there's a threat something must be done,
right? But when do we go too far?

Maybe we went to far initially, when we invaded Iraq. Maybe our current
situation is just a continuance of a very bad, fear-driven policy that
started awhile ago, and maybe we are just feeling the brunt of that bad
policy because it has inevitably flipped back on us. We weep about lost
rights but, as Sunil has noted, much of the rest of the world weeps about
lost lives.

What I'd like to see is the right take a REAL stand against big government
and stop the big U.S. war machine. Stop complaining about the consequences
of the bad policy and get to the root of the problem.


On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 9:48 PM, KRFP <krfp at radiofreemoscow.org> wrote:

>  Yeah, and the First and the Fifth.  Here again I have the rare occurrence
> of agreeing with Paul.
>
> At this point (actually since 911) I am WAY more afraid of my own
> government then any so called "terrorist".  And I don't mind if they know
> that, obviously, since I posted this.
>
> Dave
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> On 6/6/2013 9:16 PM, Paul Rumelhart wrote:
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> I'm talking about the 4th Amendment, mainly.
>
> Paul
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> On 06/06/2013 06:13 PM, Scott Dredge wrote:
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> <I'd rather have my rights.>
>
> Could you be any less specific?  If anyone's constitutional rights are
> being trampled from this data mining then we already have a system in place
> to roll back the worst abuses.
>
> > Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 17:16:17 -0700
> > From: godshatter at yahoo.com
> > To: Vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Subject: [Vision2020] U.S. intelligence mining data from nine U.S.
> Internet companies in broad secret program
> >
> > Here is the URL for a story from the Washington Post about yet another
> > data mining warrantless wiretapping abuse.
> >
> >
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/us-intelligence-mining-data-from-nine-us-internet-companies-in-broad-secret
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> > program/2013/06/06/3a0c0da8-cebf-11e2-8845-d970ccb04497_story.html
> >
> > I fear that this is just the beginning of the "revelations" to come.
> > It's been going on for years. I'm hoping that The People will get so
> > mad about this that we can begin the process of rolling back some of the
> > worst abuses that have taken place in order to "keep us safe". Screw
> > safety. I'd rather have my rights.
> >
> > Paul
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