[Vision2020] Global Warming: The North Pole is now a lake.

[Paul Rumelhart]

Does anyone read anything I write?  I'm not saying that the ice cap hasn't been melting since the start of the satellite era.  I said that a random melt pond that happened to fall under a webcam doesn't mean the ice cap is about to be lost.

Also, nice propaganda picture of the polar bear.  It's cute, and it looks like it's on that very last little bit polar ice cap that is just about to melt away and be gone forever.  Leaving the polar bear to, of course, drown.  Cute, but not very helpful.

Paul




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 From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
To: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> 
Cc: Kenneth Marcy <kmmos1 at frontier.com>; viz <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Global Warming: The North Pole is now a lake.
 


You may be on to something there, Mr. Rumelhart





Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .

"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
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Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

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- John Lennon

 


On Jul 25, 2013, at 11:39 AM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:


Every year ice melts on large stretches of the ice cap where it cannot drain into the ocean.  It forms ponds, puddles, lakes, whatever you want to call them.  This happens at the North Pole as well as at other locations on the ice pack.  This is one of the reasons determining sea ice area is difficult.  It's hard to tell ocean water from water-on-top-of-the-ice sometimes.  Currently, both the sea ice extent and sea ice area numbers are higher than they were last year and higher than they were in 2011 or 2007.  Here is a nice place where a lot of the charts are linked to from the same source: http://wattsupwiththat.com/reference-pages/sea-ice-page/  I must warn you that Ted hates this website, but since it's a bunch of links to data from official sciency-type places, I think it's OK to start there.
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>I tend to watch the NORSEX SSM/I extent and area charts, since those are the charts I've been following for a few years now.  There are also lots of other interesting graphs, as well as the webcam images from the north pole used in the article.  If you go there and look at the two web cams right now, you'll see that only one looks like it's in a lake.  The other  one looks to be safely on solid ice/snow pack.
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>I don't say this out of some sort of effort to promote climate denialism in an attempt to wreak havoc on the framework of American Life and to lead your kids to rock music, I say it to stem the "OMG! The North Pole is a lake!  We're all dooooomed!" hysteria.  I have no idea how this year will turn out in terms of minimum extent or area compared to previous years, but I'd rather look at the pretty graphs than take all my information from a webcam
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> From: Kenneth Marcy <kmmos1 at frontier.com>
>To: viz <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
>Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 10:37 AM
>Subject: [Vision2020] Global Warming: The North Pole is now a lake.
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>If ever there was any doubt in your mind about global warming, consider this news:
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>The North Pole, that great bastion of eternal cold and barren ice, is a lake.
>It’s a shallow lake. It’s a cold lake. But it is, actually, a lake.
>According to the North Pole Environmental Observatory, the summer ice is melting away at unprecedented rates. The sea of snow is now meltwater.
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>http://o.canada.com/2013/07/24/the-north-pole-is-now-a-lake/ 
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>Ken 
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