[Vision2020] Hmmm . . .

Gary Crabtree moscowlocksmith at gmail.com
Wed Feb 20 13:02:39 PST 2013


Sez the little fella who boasts pugnaciously of defending his humble
apartment with a 12 ga.
I assume that the missuz has long since dried her eyes and taken up a hobby
to fill the gap.

g

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:


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> Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .
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> "Moscow Cares"
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> Tom "Proud to be a Filthy Liberal Scum" Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
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> "There's room at the top they are telling you still
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
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> - John Lennon
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> On Feb 20, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Gary Crabtree <moscowlocksmith at gmail.com>
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> Once "he" becomes aware of said gun it becomes a powerful deterrent to
> staying in your house much less helping himself to your belongings or
> continued good health.
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> On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>wrote:
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>> This is what listening to pop music can do to you!
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>> Paul: If he's in your house, then the gun was not a deterrent.
>> On Feb 20, 2013, at 6:12 AM, Sunil Ramalingam <
>> sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>  But not in a judgmental way. I'm too busy singing to put anybody down.
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>> sr
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>> From: jampot at roadrunner.com
>> To: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
>> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Hmmm . . .
>> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 06:02:11 -0800
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>> Now you're just monkeeing around.
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>> g
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>>  *From:* Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 19, 2013 11:07 PM
>> *Cc:* vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Hmmm . . .
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>> The premise of your post was that he was breaking into homes when people
>> were there. Now you're inventing his motive to kill you. No, if he saw your
>> face, he'd be a believer, not a killer.
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>> Sunil
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>> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 22:56:57 -0800
>> From: godshatter at yahoo.com
>> To: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
>> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Hmmm . . .
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>> It didn't say he was.  If he did, though, I'd want to be able to protect
>> myself if he ran across me in a home he thought was empty and he got it
>> through his head that I had to die because I'd seen his face.  Or maybe
>> he's desperate, and now he's willing to try hitting a house that is
>> occupied but looks like he could rob it regardless.
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>> It's a tool of preparedness.  I'd rather not assume that he's harmless if
>> he's breaking into houses and robbing them.  If my assumption is wrong, I
>> could die.  I'd rather not throw away my chance at survival because "OMG!
>> Guns are bad!"
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>> It doesn't mean, by the way, that I'd just shoot this guy for breaking
>> into my house.  But a loaded weapon is a good deterrent, and if it turns
>> out my life is at stake, I'd rather have a gun than a shoe I could throw at
>> him, or whatever I happened to have at hand.
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>> This isn't rocket science.  Be prepared.  It's the good old Boy Scout
>> motto.   I also have a smoke detector and a fire extinguisher.
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>> Don't let the "guns are killing our kids!" narrative drive your views.
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>> Paul
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>> On 02/19/2013 10:43 PM, Sunil Ramalingam wrote:
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>>  Paul,
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>> Where does it say he's breaking into homes when people are in? I had a
>> lot of burglary cases, and my mistakenly charged clients were usually
>> alleged to have entered homes when no one was there. Lots easier to leave
>> with stuff that way, said the authorities.
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>> Sunil
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>> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 19:02:25 -0800
>> From: godshatter at yahoo.com
>> To: thansen at moscow.com
>> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Hmmm . . .
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>> What's paranoid about locking up when you're out and being ready to
>> defend yourself when you're at home when there is a known burglar in the
>> area?  Being prepared is not the same thing as being paranoid.  If someone
>> is crazy enough to break into your home while you are there, you can go
>> ahead and classify that as a situation fraught with danger, in which case
>> having some means to protect yourself might be called for.  There are
>> plenty of reasonable scenarios where a would-be burglar happens upon a
>> member of the household when he thought the place was empty that could end
>> up very badly for the person he stumbled upon.  If the burglar knew you
>> were at home and invaded the home anyway, then you've definitely got a
>> problem if you are happily unarmed.
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>> Better to have that gun when you need it than not.  If guns frighten you,
>> which I find hard to believe because of your military background, then at
>> least pick up a good aluminum baseball bat.
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>> Do you think I'm paranoid because I keep a set of jumper cables in my
>> trunk in case my battery dies and I need a jump from a kind stranger?  Are
>> you one of those people that joyously flit from situation to situation
>> relying on the gods to keep you out of trouble?
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>> Paul
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>> On 02/19/2013 01:18 PM, Tom Hansen wrote:
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>> Paranoia . . . self-destroya.
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>> Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .
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>> "Moscow Cares"
>> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>>
>>  Tom "Proud to be a Filthy Liberal Scum" Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>
>> "There's room at the top they are telling you still
>> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill
>> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>>
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>> - John Lennon
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