[Vision2020] Are you REALLY a libertarian?

[Paul Rumelhart]

In what way does Libertarianism "strip the people of the right to determine their own form of government and the society they wish to live in"?  You still vote the same way, the rules of Congress are the same, etc.  Libertarians are for reducing the size of government back to what is specified in the Constitution, leaving the rest to the states or the individual.  Is that what you are referring to?

Paul




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 From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
To: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>; Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> 
Cc: Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Are you REALLY a libertarian?
 


 My objection to Libertarianism is that it strips the people of
the right to determine their own form of government and the society they wish to
live in.  It removes using the government
as a means to solve a problem when it may at times be the best or least costly solution. 
 
Donovan J. Arnold

From: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
To: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> 
Cc: Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Are you REALLY a libertarian?
 


My opposition to libertarianism stems from my adherence to social contract theory. We agree to uphold the laws of a particular society in exchange for security. And vice versa: no security, no adherence to the law. 

Social programs are justified from a purely pragmatic point of view. Thus, libertarianism is false.

On Aug 22, 2013, at 8:47 AM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:


I agree with this.  Let's keep the brand name clean, so it doesn't get taken over like the original Tea Party did.
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>I do see a lot of pushback to
 Libertarianism by both Democrats and Republicans, which makes me think they're on the right track.
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>Paul
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