[Vision2020] Just a topic for discussion..........."Megaloads"

[Tom Hansen]

A little something for your reading pleasure, V-peeps . . .

Treaty between the United States and Nez Perce tribe - June 9, 1865
http://www.ccrh.org/comm/river/treaties/np63.htm

"Article II. The United States agree to reserve for a home, and for the sole use and occupation [my emphasis] of said tribe, the tract of land included within the following boundaries, to wit: Commencing at the N.E. corner of Lake Wa-ha, and running thence, northerly, to a point on the north bank of the Clearwater river, three miles below the mouth of the Lapwai, thence down the north bank of the Clearwater to the mouth of the Hatwai creek; thence, due north, to a point seven miles distant; thence, eastwardly, to a point on the north fork of the Clearwater, seven miles distant from its mouth; thence to a point on Oro Fino Creek, five miles above its mouth; thence to a point on the north fork of the south fork of the Clearwater, five miles above its mouth; thence to a point on the south fork of the Clearwater, one mile above the bridge, on the road leading to Elk City, (so as to include all the Indian farms within the forks;) thence in a straight line, westwardly, to the place of beginning."

Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .

"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
http://www.MoscowCares.com
  
Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

"There's room at the top they are telling you still 
But first you must learn how to smile as you kill 
If you want to be like the folks on the hill."

- John Lennon
 


On Aug 7, 2013, at 6:16 AM, Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:

> I don't know Wayne, it's not like we're paying them any rent for living on their land...
> 
> Sunil
> 
> From: bear at moscow.com
> Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 16:32:33 -0700
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just a topic for discussion..........."Megaloads"
> 
> Your remarks, while they may be valid, still doesn't answer the question of how much money the tribe and the forest service contributes to the design (read that as upgrades) and maintenance
> of US 12. 
> 
> If the State of Idaho is footing the bill, then the state makes the rules.  IF the tribe and the forest service makes the rules, then they should pay for the cost of that highway, and the state should
> no longer pay for it, nor maintain it.  It can become a tribal / forest service highway, and the tribe and forest service can make the rules and pay for  the road.
> 
> OK?
> 
> 
> Wayne
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> On Aug 6, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Moscow Cares wrote:
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> It is NOT the design of US 12 that troubles the tribal council.
> 
> The Nez Perce signed a treaty with the US federal government 150 (ONE HUNDRED FIFTY) years ago that defined the boundaries of the Nez Perce reservation (long before US12 was installed).
> 
> A portion of US12 is located on the Nez Perce reservation.  An an agreement (again, that dang treaty) requires Nez Perce Tribal Council approval BEFORE such items as the megaload can proceed onto tribal land.
> 
> Ok?
> 
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
> 
> On Aug 6, 2013, at 3:56 PM, Wayne Price <bear at moscow.com> wrote:
> 
> OK, I think I have a grasp of the issues involving  US 12 and the "megaloads". 
> 
> Now, my question is, if anyone knows, is how much money does the tribe and the US Forest Service kick in for the design and maintenance specifically of US  12, that they should have
> "veto" power over the state for what travels on a  state highway?
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> Wayne
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