[Vision2020] Who said . . .

Art Deco art.deco.studios at gmail.com
Wed Apr 3 14:18:10 PDT 2013 

@Paul,

This is exactly the kind of response that you typically make when you are
on the losing ending of an argument:  repeat in some way what you said
before without adding reasons and/or ignoring the point made by some one
else.

Saundra asked you in response to one of your statements:

"Do tell what you find so “very interesting” and “thought-provoking” about
what he has to say!  I must have missed that between his City Council
appearances, the Gresham Bouma campaign ad disguised as a newspaper, and
his Internet blogs and postings ... By all means, Paul, if I’ve missed
something “very interesting” and “thought-provoking,” which it sounds like
you think I have, please do share what it is."

If what you have said above about engaging in discussion  (... reply with
well thought out positions,..) isn't total hypocritical bullshit posturing,
then respond to and answer exactly what Ms Lund has asked you to, otherwise
be thought of as something a chicken does after eating and a phony to boot.

w.





On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:

> FYI, Visionaires . . .
>
> Judd Wilson sits on the city's Fair and Affordable Housing Committee.
>
> [image: image.jpeg]
>
> Kinda gives ya a warm fuzzie, huh?
>
> Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>
> - John Lennon
>
>
> On Apr 3, 2013, at 12:22 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I give up.  Enjoy your little echo chamber, because that's all it will
> ever be.
>
> Paul
>
>
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* Saundra Lund <v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm>
> *To:* 'Paul Rumelhart' <godshatter at yahoo.com>; 'Rosemary Huskey' <
> donaldrose at cpcinternet.com>; 'Tom Hansen' <thansen at moscow.com>; 'Moscow
> Vision 2020' <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 3, 2013 12:14 PM
> *Subject:* RE: [Vision2020] Who said . . .
>
> Gosh, Paul, what’s the matter?  You don’t like that Tom found Judd
> Wilson’s own words to tell us more about the kind of fellow he really is?
> What a clever boots Wilson is to provide us here on the Viz with such an
> impeccably white-washed introductory screed full of back-handed insults and
> incivility all the while claiming to be a most civil, respectful, charming
> fella!  Wayne Fox’s response was spot on, IMO.
>
> Do tell what you find so “very interesting” and “thought-provoking” about
> what he has to say!  I must have missed that between his City Council
> appearances, the Gresham Bouma campaign ad disguised as a newspaper, and
> his Internet blogs and postings.  As I think I mentioned at the time, I
> found his attempt to squelch the Constitutionally guaranteed free speech of
> those with whom he disagrees morally repugnant.  I also think that stunt
> showed him for the theocracy-craving hypocrite he is, and nothing in his
> sunny little introduction here changes that.
>
> Do you think homosexuality is unnatural, unhealthy, morally wrong, and
> corrosive to society, as does Judd Wilson?  Do you think that employment
> and housing discrimination on the basis of gender identity and sexual
> orientation are legitimate, as does Judd Wilson?  Do you think the Bible
> and any one interpretation of it should be the rule of the land, the way
> Judd Wilson does?
>
> By all means, Paul, if I’ve missed something “very interesting” and
> “thought-provoking,” which it sounds like you think I have, please do share
> what it is.  Personally, I’ve decided that for myself, life is too short
> and I’m less willing to suffer lightly wolves in sheep clothing than I was
> 20 years ago.
>
>
>
> Saundra
> Moscow, ID
>
> All the beautiful sentiments in the world weigh less than a single lovely
> action.
> ~ James Russell Lowell
>
>
>
> *From:* vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [
> mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com <vision2020-bounces at moscow.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Paul Rumelhart
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 03, 2013 9:44 AM
> *To:* Rosemary Huskey; 'Tom Hansen'; 'Moscow Vision 2020'
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Who said . . .
>
> You know, we on this list can choose to go about this a couple of
> different ways.  We can welcome him to the list, engage him in polite
> discourse, think about what he says and reply with well thought out
> positions, and generally treat him as we would like to be treated if we
> ever wandered onto a forum where the tables were turned.  Or we could
> simply let our prejudices judge him before he even gets a chance to
> (figuratively) open his mouth on this list.
>
> I didn't realize until you all started ridiculing him that he was the
> fellow I saw a DVD of one day with a friend of mine.  While I didn't agree
> with his general outlook, I did find that he had some very interesting and
> thought-provoking things to say.  I'm hoping he endures the feces that I
> suspect will continue to be thrown at him for a long time to come, and
> doesn't get discouraged and stays on this list.
>
> Paul
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Rosemary Huskey <donaldrose at cpcinternet.com>
> *To:* 'Tom Hansen' <thansen at moscow.com>; 'Moscow Vision 2020' <
> vision2020 at moscow.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 3, 2013 6:29 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Who said . . .
>
> You know what is really precious about this fellow?  It’s his total lack
> of self awareness.  Just below and to the left of the bolded caps in the
> masthead *THE OFFICAL WEBSITE OF JUDD WILSON*  there are tiny little
> faded blue letters (maybe a size 4 font.  I can barely read are the words
> “Faith, Hope and Love.”  This is too delicious, and ironic for words.
> Rose Huskey
>
> *From:* vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [
> mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com <vision2020-bounces at moscow.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Tom Hansen
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 03, 2013 5:55 AM
> *To:* Moscow Vision 2020
> *Subject:* [Vision2020] Who said . . .
>
> "The fact that there are actually good things that white American boys do,
> or that there are evil things that non-white, non-American, non-males do,
> does not fit into their worldview.  Therefore those actual facts are either
> never reported, or if reported, mixed in with so much disinformation that
> the facts are barely recognizable, i.e., any crime reports involving
> 'teens” or “youths.'
>
> And what happens when white American boys actually do commit evil acts,
> such as Adam Lanza’s senseless murders in Newtown, Conn.?  The “reporters”
> don’t bother to report on the reasons why that boy, or his counterparts in
> Aurora, or Columbine and elsewhere, have become murderers.  They
> automatically forget that since the 1960s this country has turned its
> founding stock — Christian white men and their families — into the targets
> of every slander, lie, and perversion known to man."
>
> Hint:  The author of this statement is a member of Vision 2020.
>
> Guesses?
> Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
> http://www.MoscowCares.com <http://www.moscowcares.com/>
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>
> - John Lennon
>
>
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