[Vision2020] Who said . . .

Wed Apr 3 12:22:09 PDT 2013

I give up.  Enjoy your little echo chamber, because that's all it will ever be.

Paul

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 From: Saundra Lund <v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm>
To: 'Paul Rumelhart' <godshatter at yahoo.com>; 'Rosemary Huskey' <donaldrose at cpcinternet.com>; 'Tom Hansen' <thansen at moscow.com>; 'Moscow Vision 2020' <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2013 12:14 PM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Who said . . .

Gosh, Paul, what’s the matter?  You don’t like that Tom found Judd Wilson’s own words to tell us more about the kind of fellow he really is?  What a clever boots Wilson is to provide us here on the Viz with such an impeccably white-washed introductory screed full of back-handed insults and incivility all the while claiming to be a most civil, respectful, charming fella!  Wayne Fox’s response was spot on, IMO.

Do tell what you find so “very interesting” and “thought-provoking” about what he has to say!  I must have missed that between his City Council appearances, the Gresham Bouma campaign ad disguised as a newspaper, and his Internet blogs and postings.  As I think I mentioned at the time, I found his attempt to squelch the Constitutionally guaranteed free speech of those with whom he disagrees morally repugnant.  I also think that stunt showed him for the theocracy-craving hypocrite he is, and nothing in his sunny little introduction here changes that.

Do you think homosexuality is unnatural, unhealthy, morally wrong, and corrosive to society, as does Judd Wilson?  Do you think that employment and housing discrimination on the basis of gender identity and sexual orientation are legitimate, as does Judd Wilson?  Do you think the Bible and any one interpretation of it should be the rule of the land, the way Judd Wilson does?

By all means, Paul, if I’ve missed something “very interesting” and “thought-provoking,” which it sounds like you think I have, please do share what it is.  Personally, I’ve decided that for myself, life is too short and I’m less willing to suffer lightly wolves in sheep clothing than I was 20 years ago.

Saundra
Moscow, ID

All the beautiful sentiments in the world weigh less than a single lovely action.
~ James Russell Lowell

From:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Paul Rumelhart
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 9:44 AM
To: Rosemary Huskey; 'Tom Hansen'; 'Moscow Vision 2020'
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Who said . . .

You know, we on this list can choose to go about this a couple of different ways.  We can welcome him to the list, engage him in polite discourse, think about what he says and reply with well thought out positions, and generally treat him as we would like to be treated if we ever wandered onto a forum where the tables were turned.  Or we could simply let our prejudices judge him before he even gets a chance to (figuratively) open his mouth on this list.

I didn't realize until you all started ridiculing him that he was the fellow I saw a DVD of one day with a friend of mine.  While I didn't agree with his general outlook, I did find that he had some very interesting and thought-provoking things to say.  I'm hoping he endures the feces that I suspect will continue to be thrown at him for a long time to come, and doesn't get discouraged and stays on this list.

Paul

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From:Rosemary Huskey <donaldrose at cpcinternet.com>
To: 'Tom Hansen' <thansen at moscow.com>; 'Moscow Vision 2020' <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2013 6:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Who said . . .

You know what is really precious about this fellow?  It’s his total lack of self awareness.  Just below and to the left of the bolded caps in the masthead THE OFFICAL WEBSITE OF JUDD WILSON there are tiny little faded blue letters (maybe a size 4 font.  I can barely read are the words “Faith, Hope and Love.”  This is too delicious, and ironic for words.
Rose Huskey

From:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Tom Hansen
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 5:55 AM
To: Moscow Vision 2020
Subject: [Vision2020] Who said . . .

"The fact that there are actually good things that white American boys do, or that there are evil things that non-white, non-American, non-males do, does not fit into their worldview.  Therefore those actual facts are either never reported, or if reported, mixed in with so much disinformation that the facts are barely recognizable, i.e., any crime reports involving 'teens” or “youths.'

And what happens when white American boys actually do commit evil acts, such as Adam Lanza’s senseless murders in Newtown, Conn.?  The “reporters” don’t bother to report on the reasons why that boy, or his counterparts in Aurora, or Columbine and elsewhere, have become murderers.  They automatically forget that since the 1960s this country has turned its founding stock — Christian white men and their families — into the targets of every slander, lie, and perversion known to man."

Hint:  The author of this statement is a member of Vision 2020.

Guesses?
Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .

"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
http://www.MoscowCares.com

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

"There's room at the top they are telling you still 
But first you must learn how to smile as you kill 
If you want to be like the folks on the hill."

- John Lennon

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