[Vision2020] FW: Obama backs amendment

lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
Mon Sep 3 15:51:13 PDT 2012 

Tom
I am glad that you have lots of money to throw around. I am just barely able to pay the monthly bills and also have family members that need assistance. I am also looking for a part-time job. That is not easy to find for a 74 year old man in an Obama Economy. I will not be donating to anybody this year. I will be putting up yard signs and helping to man the GOP Headquarters.

My wife is not in good health, but she works about 12 hours a day and does a lot of work with disadvantaged 4-H kids. She usually does not get home until 1 or 2 in the morning.  The stress gets to her and she is usually up all night throwing up every two weeks or so, but she will not slow down .She helps put on the state and regional 4-H and FFA Soils Contest. She does not get reimbursed for this except for a little milage from PSES and NRCS. She either sleeps in the truck ar stays with our son. For food she takes a cooler. She frequently comes home sick after these trips. I try to help her out when she goes in the field and help her by doing dishes and weighing sample at the Lab. My labor is free. We sponsor ( through the Grange) a Farm Safety poster contest, which is available to all 4th, 5th and 6th graders in the county. We award cash prizes for the top four winners in each class. The winning poster then go to the state grange where more awards are given. We run a food b!
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the fair in order to rise money for this endeavor. We only have a few members, some of with are over 90. I am usually there from 7:00 a.m to 10:p.m.  and have chores to do before and after that. I only have two ladies to help me part of the time. My wife is the Goat Superintendent, so she is busy there.  This is not exactly easy for a 74 year old man. If any one would like to help it would be appreciated. Susan Robers helped on Saturday, last year. I Think we( mostly my wife) do a lot to help the community.
Roger
-----Original message-----
From: "Gary Crabtree" jampot at roadrunner.com
Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2012 19:40:16 -0700
To: "Scott Dredge" scooterd408 at hotmail.com, moscowcares at moscow.com, lfalen at turbonet.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] FW: Obama backs amendment

> "...neither would they be prohibited from advertising such a donation as part of shameless self-promotion for example."
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> Or in a sad and pathetic attempt to purchase some kind of relevance?
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> From: Scott Dredge 
> Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2012 1:01 PM
> To: moscowcares at moscow.com ; lfalen at turbonet.com 
> Cc: viz 
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] FW: Obama backs amendment
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> I'm not sure that I've ever donated specifically to a campaign although I am certain in that past years that I checked the box on my tax return that asks if you want $1 (now $3) of your federal tax to go to the Presidential Election Campaign Fund.
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> The disclosure laws would be for the candidates themselves to disclose accepted donors / amounts so that the voters would get a clearer picture of who's back pocket the candidate could potentially wind up in.  Donors from anonymous sources might possibly be allowed up to a certain amount.  I'd guess the donors themselves would not be required by law to publicly disclose, but neither would they be prohibited from advertising such a donation as part of shameless self-promotion for example.
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> -Scott
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> > CC: scooterd408 at hotmail.com; kmmos1 at frontier.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
> > From: moscowcares at moscow.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] FW: Obama backs amendment
> > Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 10:53:13 -0700
> > To: lfalen at turbonet.com
> > 
> > No problem, Mr. Falen.
> > 
> > Similarly, here in Idaho's 5th legislative district . . . in the interest of openness and transparency . . . I am proud to state that "Moscow Cares" has contributed $1,000 to the reelection campaign of Rep. Shirley Ringo . . . and "Moscow Cares" will be making a comparable contribution to the reelection campaign of Idaho's 5th legislative district Sen. Dan Schmidt next week.
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> > And you, Mr. Falen? How much, and to whose election/reelection campaign, did you contribute?
> > 
> > Seeya round town, Moscow.
> > 
> > Tom Hansen
> > Moscow, Idaho
> > 
> > "We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The college students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."
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> > - Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)
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> > On Sep 1, 2012, at 10:29 AM, lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote:
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> > > It would be appropriate to have donations disclosed, otherwise leave it alone.
> > > Roger
> > > -----Original message-----
> > > From: Scott Dredge scooterd408 at hotmail.com
> > > Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 23:35:03 -0700
> > > To: kmmos1 at frontier.com, viz vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] FW: Obama backs amendment
> > > 
> > >> 
> > >> At best I see this as a money maker and a vote getter for both parties with the Democrats 'fighting' for it and the Republicans fighting against it. I'm not even convinced that there is problem to be solved other than the disclosure factor of who is giving to who. And I don't buy the assertion that voices of ordinary citizens will be drowned out as if they haven't already been drowned out for decades by the so-called liberal media and right wing talk radio.
> > >> 
> > >> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 20:56:55 -0700
> > >> From: kmmos1 at frontier.com
> > >> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] FW: Obama backs amendment
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> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> On 8/31/2012 4:59 PM, Scott Dredge
> > >> wrote:
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> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> Does anyone know the specific text of the proposed
> > >> Constitutional Amendment? Obama is blowing smoke...
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> The specific constitutional amendment language has not yet been
> > >> written.
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> Here's the question and how Obama responded to it from the laptop he
> > >> used for the reddit session that received his posts:
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> Q: suzmerk
> > >> What are you going to do to end the corrupting influence of money
> > >> in politics during your second term?
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> A: PresidentObama
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> [–]PresidentObamaObama[S]
> > >> 2292 points 2 days
> > >> ago
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> Money has always been a factor in politics, but we are
> > >> seeing something new in the no-holds barred flow of seven
> > >> and eight figure checks, most undisclosed, into super-PACs;
> > >> they fundamentally threaten to overwhelm the political
> > >> process over the long run and drown out the voices of
> > >> ordinary citizens. We need to start with passing the
> > >> Disclose Act that is already written and been sponsored in
> > >> Congress - to at least force disclosure of who is giving to
> > >> who. We should also pass legislation prohibiting the
> > >> bundling of campaign contributions from lobbyists. Over the
> > >> longer term, I think we need to seriously consider
> > >> mobilizing a constitutional amendment process to overturn
> > >> Citizens United (assuming the Supreme Court doesn't revisit
> > >> it). Even if the amendment process falls short, it can shine
> > >> a spotlight of the super-PAC phenomenon and help apply
> > >> pressure for change.
> > >> 
> > >> 
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> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> Ken
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
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