[Vision2020] FW: Party of Strivers

[Sunil Ramalingam]

Scott,

I have no delusion that my vote will have any impact on Idaho's electoral delegates. Romney will get them, and perhaps that makes it easier for me to vote conscience. Maybe I would rationalize myself into voting for Obama if I lived in California.

I do disagree with your statement about ' leaving the extremists to easily drop into the camps of the Elephants and Donkeys.' While I think the Republicans have moved very far to the right, so have the Democrats. Both of them serve Wall Street first. Obama raced to that position immediately. He pays some lip service to the left, on such issues as gay rights, but otherwise he is center-right. His foreign policy is essentially Bush's foreign policy. There is no place for the left in his administration; it cracks me up to hear conservative commentators call him a leftist. 

Here's an exchange from the interview I mentioned earlier:

CUSACK: Does that order have to come directly from Obama, or 
can his underlings carry that out on his behalf as part of a generalized
 understanding? Or does he have to personally say, "You can get that guy
 and that guy?"

TURLEY: Well, he has delegated the authority to the so-called death 
panel, which is, of course, hilarious, since the Republicans keep 
talking about a nonexistent death panel in national healthcare. We 
actually do have a death panel, and it's killing people who are healthy.
Our politics are so absurd that the Right bloviates about non-existent death panels, and no one cares about the illegal and actual death panels. Remarkable.



Sunil
From: scooterd408 at hotmail.com
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 16:02:20 -0600
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] FW:  Party of Strivers





I'm sure you'll vote your conscience Sunil, but will it have any impact on who will receive your state's electoral delegates or, barring any unforeseen catastrophe, is your state's red/blue designation already predetermined?

Fortunately / unfortunately, the system is setup such that it naturally splits into two major groups of power brokers.  There isn't going to be a third party emerging such as the 'common sense' party that captures the socially liberal Republicans, the fiscally conservative Democrats, or the rest of moderates leaving the extremists to easily drop into the camps of the Elephants and Donkeys.  And thus the power pendulum just oscillates over the election cycles with the main motivation for voting being 'throw the bums out' since neither party has been able to figure out how to 'get and keep things right' even when they have consolidated power in the white house and both houses of congress.

http://www.commonsenseparty.org/index.html

-Scott

From: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 14:35:01 -0700
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] FW:  Party of Strivers








'Party loyalty is blind...and deaf and dumb...and cruel.'

I'm about half way through this interview of Jonathan Turley by John Cusack, looking at Obama's repugnant foreign policy:

http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/11264-john-cusack-and-jonathan-turley-on-obamas-constitution

A s long as we support the people implementing these policies, they will go on. I'm not voting for Obama again, because of this.

Sunil 

> From: betsyd at turbonet.com
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 10:57:13 -0700
> Subject: [Vision2020] FW:  Party of Strivers
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Betsy Dickow [mailto:betsyd at turbonet.com] 
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 10:57 AM
> To: 'Joe Campbell'
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Party of Strivers
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> And most of the poor will be poor through not fault of their own...how many
> people are working hard and often overtime at the University of Idaho and
> not making ends meet...many many many.  And here it's no different from the
> Wall Street corporate model...administrators win big and everyone else is a
> peon, working for peanuts.
> This is democracy?  No, this is the will of a few billionaires and the
> Republican Party...Get your head out of the sand and stop thinking in terms
> of party loyalty.
> Party loyalty is blind...and deaf and dumb...and cruel.
> 
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