[Vision2020] another litmus test

[Tom Hansen]

We are talking two versions of the Patriotic Act; the one under King George XLII and the one under President Obama.

Yes.  President Obama did sign and approve continuation of the Patriot Act AFTER AUTHORITY FOR WARRANTLESS SEARCHES WAS REMOVED.

You know . . . fourth amendment and all.

Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .

"Moscow Cares"
http://www.MoscowCares.com
  
Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho
 

On Nov 21, 2012, at 7:51 AM, Art Deco <art.deco.studios at gmail.com> wrote:

> And so far not a lot of help from the courts which ought disallow such things on constitutional grounds.
> 
> w.
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> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> It's called Obama's Patriot Act now. He signed the NDAA. He's legitimized the Bush policies. It's a little late to be fooling ourselves about him, isn't it?
>> 
>> Case of beer of choice says it passes, with a lot of blather about Safety. 
>> 
>> Sunil
>> 
>> From: thansen at moscow.com
>> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 12:03:54 -0800
>> To: godshatter at yahoo.com
>> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] another litmus test
>> 
>> Unlike Bush's Patriot Act that gave law enforcement agencies authority to thoroughly search private property jus' 'cuz they're bored.
>> 
>> Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .
>> 
>> "Moscow Cares"
>> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>>   
>> Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>  
>> 
>> On Nov 20, 2012, at 10:55 AM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>> There's a bill going through the Senate that will be a good litmus test for our President and our democratically-controlled Senate with respect to civil liberties.  Senator Leahy (D) of Vermont introduced a bill before that Senate that required a warrant to search email.  The Justice Department and some law enforcement groups didn't like it because they oppose the warrant requirement.  So Senator Leahy reworked the bill to allow access to emails to 22 different governmental organizations *without* the need for a search warrant.
>> 
>> This bill goes up for a vote in the Senate next week.  Let's see if we are still on the path to a totalitarian government or not.  Will it pass?  Will our President veto it if it gets to him?  Stay tuned.
>> 
>> Here is some information on the bill:
>> 
>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57552225-38/senate-bill-rewrite-lets-feds-read-your-e-mail-without-warrants/
>> 
>> Paul
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