[Vision2020] Are the police tracking your calls?

Thu May 24 19:30:36 PDT 2012

It is my impression that this information being retrieved by outside agencies is NOT necessarily the product of some sort of covert email espionage as it is the product of digitized "cookies" (as they are called) that are purposely deposited into your computer to lightly monitor your email activity.  This activity can be drastically reduced by installing effective anti-virus/Internet protection software.

I protect my computers with Norton 360.  Works great!

Note to Janesta:  Let me know where the CIA assigns you after you get your CDL, ok? 

Seeya round town, Moscow.

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

"If not us, who?
If not now, when?"

- Unknown

On May 24, 2012, at 19:12, Janesta <janesta at gmail.com> wrote:

> I use gmail. When v2020 was discussing the oversize trucks going to Alberta, I was receiving ads for truck driving school.
> 
> Now that our discussion is privacy issues, I just received an ad to apply to www.AMU.APUS.edu/Intelligence to get a CIA intelligence degree.
> 
> All of this is creepy to me. 
> 
> Does anyone know of an email service that does not scan my email?
> 
> Thanks,
> Janesta
> 
> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
> Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they AREN'T after you.
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> 
> Paranoia . . . Self-destroya.
> 
> Seeya round town, Moscow.
> 
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
> 
> "If not us, who?
> If not now, when?"
> 
> - Unknown
> 
> 
> 
> On May 24, 2012, at 18:00, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Security, not just against police surveillance but against all forms of intrusion, is best served by a layered defense.  The first layer is the one you suggest - if you don't want it compromised, don't put it out there.  There are other steps that can be taken, such as:
>> 
>> - don't open attachments from strangers
>> - don't run an email client that automatically runs attachments
>> - don't tell your email client to run an attachment manually
>> - keep up on your updates  for your OS, email client, browser, flash, and java
>> - use a browser that doesn't run any attachments by default
>> - turn off javascript or use something like NoScript to enable only the sites you trust
>> - use an adblocker to keep advertisers from tracking you through image requests and to keep malware ads from doing harm
>> - disable third-party cookies, or use an extension to manage them for you
>> - use something like FlashBlock to keep flash advertisements from trying to track you
>> - use a private VPN
>> - use an OS like linux that isn't hacked as often
>> - probably lots of others I'm forgetting at the moment
>> 
>> I think of these things like common street smarts, but for the net.  You shouldn't click on an attachment any more than you should look that mean looking dude in the eye when you walk past him.  As a bonus, if you do these things you won't see most advertisements that     are trying to distract you, and your browsing experience will be twice as fast because of all the javascript and images you are not downloading.  Just remember to donate to your favorite websites to make up for the loss of ad revenue, should you feel so inclined.
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>> On 05/24/2012 02:02 PM, Ted Moffett wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "You already have zero privacy anyway. Get over it." 1 Sun Microsystems CEO Scott McNealy 
>>> 
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>>> I assume anything I place on my computer, or send over the Internet, or any phone call I make anywhere, even from a public phone, is subject to potential surveillance.
>>> 
>>> I am way far from super well educated on these complex issues, but from what I have gathered, encryption does not necessarily assure privacy, with key stroke loggers such as Magic Lantern.  
>>> 
>>> What if when you are not home, the FBI or government black-op operatives, or others from who knows where, break-in, with surveillance technology placed on your computer, that records or sends every keystroke?  Maybe there are safeguards against Magic Lantern or tampering directly with a computer to surveil it:
>>> 
>>> Info on Magic Lantern:
>>> 
>>> https://litigation-essentials.lexisnexis.com/webcd/app?action=DocumentDisplay&crawlid=1&doctype=cite&docid=20+J.+Marshall+J.+Computer+%26+Info.+L.+287&srctype=smi&srcid=3B15&key=3addc849b1738f1c82c98f8bd294a0ab
>>> 
>>> COMMENT: THE "MAGIC LANTERN" REVEALED: A REPORT OF THE FBI'S NEW "KEY LOGGING" TROJAN AND ANALYSIS OF ITS POSSIBLE TREATMENT IN A DYNAMIC LEGAL LANDSCAPE
>>> 
>>> McNealy "You already have zero privacy anyway. Get over it." 1 Although this quip from Sun Microsystems CEO Scott McNealy seems extreme, it strongly illustrates the current tension between the power of technology and an individual's expectation of privacy. 2 This tension creates an incessant struggle, because for power of surveillance technology to increase, privacy must decrease, and vice versa. These struggles are best illustrated through the Federal Government's attempts to maintain national security through surveillance of communications and activities while attempting to sustain the legitimate expectations of privacy in the American people. 3 One of the most recent developments resulting from this quandary is the FBI's new enigmatic surveillance tool - a "keystroke logger" Trojan horse/computer worm they have dubbed "Magic Lantern." 4
>>> 
>>> ." 6 Historically, the FBI has been thwarted by certain counter-intelligence technologies, specifically encryption. 7 Magic Lantern would assist the FBI by recording the passwords used to encode/decode the encrypted messages, thereby permitting the Bureau to access the content of the otherwise indecipherable documents. 8 However, critics of the software raise serious concerns about the software's conflict ...
>>> 
>>> ---------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> The Carnivore program may be old fashioned, given the speed of computer technology advances, but it was major news, even discussed in the US Congress by tech savvy US Senator from Washington, Maria Cantwell, along with Magic Lantern, in questions to former US Attorney General Ashcroft:
>>> 
>>> http://www.salon.com/2001/12/08/ashcroft_15/
>>> 
>>> Info on Carnivore:
>>> 
>>> Carnivore: US Government Surveillance
>>> of Internet Transmissions
>>> 
>>> http://www.vjolt.net/vol6/issue2/v6i2-a10-Jennings.html
>>> 
>>> ----------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> From "Wired" magazine, a recent article on the NSA's spying expansion.  Orwell rolls in his grave!
>>> The NSA Is Building the Country’s Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say)
>>> 
>>> By James Bamford
>>> Email Author
>>> March 15, 2012
>>> http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/1
>>> 
>>> Under construction by contractors with top-secret clearances, the blandly named Utah Data Center is being built for the National Security Agency. A project of immense secrecy, it is the final piece in a complex puzzle assembled over the past decade. Its purpose: to intercept, decipher, analyze, and store vast swaths of the world’s communications as they zap down from satellites and zip through the underground and undersea cables of international, foreign, and domestic networks. The heavily fortified $2 billion center should be up and running in September 2013. Flowing through its servers and routers and stored in near-bottomless databases will be all forms of communication, including the complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls, and Google searches,       as well as all sorts of personal data trails—parking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other digital “pocket litter.” It is, in some measure, the realization of the “total information awareness” program created during the first term of the Bush administration—an effort that was killed by Congress in 2003 after it caused an outcry over its potential for invading Americans’ privacy.
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>>> Vision2020 Post: Ted Moffett
>>> 
>>> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Art Deco <art.deco.studios at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good advice.  Do you have any recommendations for a VPN provider?
>>> 
>>> w.
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