[Vision2020] A Liberal

[Tom Hansen]

As I have stated in the past in words to the affect . . .

I totally support the letter and spirit of the second amendment.  However, I draw the line somewhere after skeet shooting and looooooonnnnng before somebody drives a fully loaded M2 Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicle down Main Street.

Seeya round town, Moscow.

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

"If not us, who?
If not now, when?"

- Unknown



On Jul 16, 2012, at 14:53, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com> wrote:

> There is also Amendment IX: "The enumeration in the Constitution, of
> certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others
> retained by the people." Thus, we can restrict rights precisely when
> they "deny or disparage" other rights. Or in other words: no one has
> the right to do wrong. I think the idea that the 2nd amendment
> "protects" the "right" to purchase, say, armor piercing bullets is
> wrong headed. Joe
> 
> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Scott Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Sure...there are some extreme cases where restrictions make sense (e.g.
>> falsely shouting fire in a crowded theater).  I suppose there may even be
>> some extreme case limiting access to abortion (e.g. doctors recommend
>> terminating a pregnancy to save the life of an incapacitated woman who's
>> husband, parents, children, and close friends all truthfully testify in
>> legal depositions that the woman would not want such a pregnancy
>> terminated).
>> 
>> There are always extreme corner case scenarios that you can dream up and
>> even harder to believe ones that occur in real life that necessitate some
>> safeguarding limitations.
>> 
>> -Scott
>> 
>>> CC: scooterd408 at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
>>> From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] A Liberal
>>> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:21:50 -0700
>>> To: thansen at moscow.com
>> 
>>> 
>>> Me too. I think the view that gun rights can NEVER be restricted is false.
>>> All rights can be restricted. If free speech can be restricted than gun
>>> rights can be restricted. Joe
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 16, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I own a shotgun myself. I believe in, and support, the second amendment.
>>>> 
>>>> Seeya round town, Moscow.
>>>> 
>>>> Tom Hansen
>>>> Moscow, Idaho
>>>> 
>>>> "If not us, who?
>>>> If not now, when?"
>>>> 
>>>> - Unknown
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 16, 2012, at 10:44, Scott Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I'd say it's not inconsistent then that a Liberal can also support 2nd
>>>>> Amendment gun ownership rights to - among other things - protect property
>>>>> and person. :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: thansen at moscow.com
>>>>> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:39:41 -0700
>>>>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>>> Subject: [Vision2020] A Liberal
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Seeya round town, Moscow.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tom Hansen
>>>>> Moscow, Idaho
>>>>> 
>>>>> "If not us, who?
>>>>> If not now, when?"
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Unknown
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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