[Vision2020] Same sex marriage

[Donovan Arnold]

Sorry, Ken, but that is one of the silliest arguments I have heard. Marriage has nothing to do with if people have children or not. You can be married and have no children and be not married and have 10 children.  Many same sex couples can, do, will, and want to have children, and make damn good parents too. 
 
It is actually easier to have more children if you are NOT in a monogamous relationship for both genders. A man is more able to impregnate more women, and a woman would be more likely to get pregnant with more men.
 
People should not, or be socially engineered to marry a person of a gender they are not attracted to, that is unfair to one or both of them. As well as others that could be deprived of their true affections and love. 
 
Marriage should ALWAYS be about two consenting adults who love each other. And nothing else. People deserve nothing less.
 
Donovan J. Arnold

From: Kenneth Marcy <kmmos1 at frontier.com>
To: viz <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 2:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Same sex marriage


On 7/14/2012 10:57 PM, Scott Dredge wrote:

Legalization of same sex marriage is a foregone conclusion.  There is simply no logical or legal reasonings that can be justified to uphold same sex marriage bans.  Case in point is Loving vs Virginia 1967 which ended race based restrictions in the United States.  If there can be no restrictions based on race, how can there be restrictions placed on gender?  Both race and gender are predetermined prior to birth.  Checkmate.
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Equity, fairness, and justice arguments in favor of same-sex marriage have some logical and symmetric attractiveness that encourage their acceptance. However, there are more powerful and practical reasons why same-sex marriage may eventuate into the standard normal behavior, and opposite-sex marriage may become an ever more regulated minority relationship.

The more powerful argument in favor of same-sex, that is, non-reproductive, marriage is simply that there are too many human beings on this planet, and the rate of growth of population is too high to be sustainable with the resources we have available, or can possibly have available, to allow our current rates of population growth to continue without disastrous consequences to ever more widespread areas of developed geography.

If reasonably near human generations are to survive without social collapse via chaotic, uncontrolled mechanisms, we must, among other things, control our population growth. Same-sex marriages may well become the usual majority relationship, rather than the less common, and population increasing, opposite-sex, legally-recognized relationship.

Recently amended state constitutions need re-amendment to recognize undeniable population realities, and to implement what rational, non-chaotic controls we are able.

University of Colorado emeritus professor of physics Albert Bartlett has been lecturing about the problems of exponential growth for a long time. You may have seen his standard lecture on the topic, but if not, here are links to a couple versions of it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JRVijo65W0 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOrvGDRLT7A&feature=related 


Ken

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