[Vision2020] Welcome to Confederate Latah County . . .

[Joe Campbell]

Why not a display about herpes, or incest, or rodent infestation? Wouldn't
want to censor those, would we? After all, we don't want to sugarcoat the
horrible world we live in!

What good does it do? None. We all know about the ills of slavery. Well,
most of us at least. Joe

On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>wrote:

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> One doesn't nuance slavery, but we shouldn't sugar-coat it either.  It's a
> historical display.  We shouldn't be self-censoring it because people might
> find the confederate flag offensive.  Some people would find the union flag
> offensive, if they had ancestors that died on that side of the war.
>
> As a community, we should not be afraid to look at this display
> unflinchingly and remember the positives and the negatives of that
> conflict.  Be very, very careful about self-censoring our history.  As a
> country we have done some pretty bad things, to each other and to people
> outside our borders, and those things should be remembered.
>
> Paul
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> On 07/13/2012 11:56 AM, Rosemary Huskey wrote:
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>  I  would call a confederate flag placed in a display about a confederate
> soldier with ties to Latah County A Celebratory Nod to Racism.   Help me to
> understand how one nuances slavery, Paul.  If you are under the impression
> that tolerance of the intolerable is a badge of liberal honor, then I
> assume you understand completely why I despise and mock the latte sipping
> liberals that are so thick on the ground in Latah County.  ****
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> *From:* vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [
> mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com <vision2020-bounces at moscow.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Paul Rumelhart
> *Sent:* Friday, July 13, 2012 11:35 AM
> *To:* Joe Campbell
> *Cc:* viz
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Welcome to Confederate Latah County . . .****
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> Would you call placing a confederate flag in a cabinet housing an
> historical display about a confederate soldier that has a tie to Latah
> County in the Latah County Courthouse indefensible?
>
> Because I wouldn't.
>
> Also, the one-dimensional liberal / conservative axis is failing us here.
> We need more nuance in American politics than that.
>
> Paul
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> On 07/13/2012 09:47 AM, Joe Campbell wrote:****
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>  I think it is best to avoid defending the indefensible, anything to do
> with slavery in particular. There are A LOT of better uses for your words
> and your motivations will always be questioned -- no matter how many times
> you call yourself a liberal.
>
> Joe****
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>
> On Jul 13, 2012, at 9:33 AM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:*
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> You have to walk on eggshells around here, lest your honest opinion be
> mistaken as an attack on all things liberal.  Which is ironic because I
> consider myself to be a liberal (at least on some issues).  And I hate
> walking on eggshells.
>
> Paul
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> On 07/13/2012 12:25 AM, Scott Dredge wrote:****
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>  Wow! - welcome back to the V Paul.  You're a much better man than I am!
> [note to myself: never share a painful personal experience trying to make a
> perfectly valid point on the V lest you be savagely crucified by 'holier
> than thou' Tom and Donovan)
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> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:13:51 -0700
> From: godshatter at yahoo.com
> To: thansen at moscow.com
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Welcome to Confederate Latah County . . .****
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>
> At the risk of sending everyone into an apoplectic rage by suggesting that
> they may be over-reacting, exactly what is the purpose of that display?  Is
> it, perhaps, to display information on a historical time, event, or person
> connected to the Civil War?  If so, then having a confederate flag in the
> display might make sense.  Also, trying to imply that the US and State
> flags are unimportant because they placed a table in front of them with a
> box on it seems a bit of a stretch.
>
> Paul
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> On 07/12/2012 01:17 PM, Tom Hansen wrote:****
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> Seeya round town, Moscow.****
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