[Vision2020] A Celebration of the Confederacy - No Thanks

Fri Jul 13 00:13:12 PDT 2012

Good luck baiting Gary on anything Tom.  I remember this event but can't answer your questions below without going back into the archives (or onto your site) which I'm too lazy to do.  But obviously the presenter was from our least favorite / unfriendly church with the 'pastor' who has an unwavering adoration of the Antebellum South.

For me personally - better the devil you know - so I'd rather them just be their typical true selves so that everyone can see them for who they really are and watch them eventually get their just deserts - which almost never seems to fail.

-Scott

From: thansen at moscow.com
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 20:00:58 -0700
To: jampot at roadrunner.com
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] A Celebration of the Confederacy - No Thanks

Pop quiz, Mr. Crabtree . . .
The graphic below, and several other similar graphics, was presented at the Moscow Chamber of Commerce Board of Directors Annual Retreat on August 5, 2004 as part of a discussion on leadership.
Who was the presenter and what elected position did (s)he hold at that time?

Seeya round town, Moscow.
Tom HansenMoscow, Idaho
"If not us, who?If not now, when?"
- Unknown

On Jul 12, 2012, at 19:45, "Gary Crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:

The flag is part of a historical display 
and is in no way a "celebration" of the confederacy. If you are bound and 
determined to have a conniption every time the stars and bars pops up you're 
destined to spend way too much time in a hyper agitated state. Some folks 
like that I guess but, I would find it tiresome. What is hard to defend is the 
silly notion that every time this flag pops up that it has to be construed 
as a statement that all all things antebellum were wonderful and 
need to be brought back. Some things may have been and some definitely weren't 
with slavery being chief amongst the evils. It's gone now (thank goodness, good 
riddance) and it's not coming back no matter how may flags fly. From a practical 
stand point it would make more sense to develop a case of knicker kink over the 
flags of Mauritania, Sudan, Niger, Mali, Pakistan, and the UAE. Countries where 
slavery is actively practiced.

Thank you for your kind seasonal wishes 
("stout" fellas like myself enjoy the heat like goldfish enjoy the Gobi) and my 
best to you and yours.

g

P.S. I was wrong in my earlier post in 
referring to the handgun in the display as a pistol. It is a revolver. 
A pal of mine pointed this out to me within about 40 seconds of my hitting 
the send key. I should (and do) know better. My head hangs in abject 
shame...

... and now I'm over it.

From: Rosemary Huskey 
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 4:36 PM
To: 'Gary Crabtree' 
Cc: 'Moscow Vision 2020' 
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] A Celebration of the Confederacy - No 
Thanks

Gary, 
you are just plain wrong about this.  There is a ton of material available 
locally about the GAR, pictures of GAR parades down a very muddy Main St., and 
lots of local newspaper stories about candidates running for local office and 
bragging about their Union experience.  It would take less than three hours 
and a few bucks to get a mighty fine display put together. None of which has 
anything on earth to do with a confederate rag and the pointless display of an 
old pistol in our court house.  
Self 
righteous rant my ass, mindless defense of the indefensible ought to be your 
concern.
But, 
I do hope you are having a nice summer.
Rose

From: Gary Crabtree 
[mailto:moscowlocksmith at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 4:25 
PM
To: Rosemary Huskey
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] A 
Celebration of the Confederacy - No Thanks

Talk about mole hill to mountain mutations, this display has 
been up in the courthouse lobby for months. Previously it contained a similarly 
educational display with WW II as the topic of interest. I take it that no 
one on this forum who is wailing and gnashing their teeth has actually looked at 
the display. There is nothing in it that is even remotely a "celebration" 
of the confederacy. Aside from the flag and a pistol, every thing else is 
union memorabilia and items with a connection between the GAR and various 
locals.

It sure doesn't take much to set the usual suspects off on a 
self righteous rant.

g

On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Rosemary Huskey <donaldrose at cpcinternet.com> wrote:

Hi Tom,

I am sorry to be writing to you with a complaint but I 
must.  I know that you and the other county commissioners are not 
responsible for the display in the lobby of the courthouse.  Nonetheless, 
the fact that that display as been up for at least two days without (apparently) 
concern on your part is making my head explode. (Maybe you are out of town and 
don’t know about this – if so, I apologize to you) I hate to use the expression 
WTF, but really Tom, WTF.  What would national news outlets think, given 
Idaho’s connection with the Aryan Nations, Doug Wilson’s Southern Slavery as 
It Was, and local freaky Tea Party morons who think State’s Rights trump 
all?  If the Confederacy is going to celebrated front and center in the 
Courthouse it is my expectation that the following images (make sure the county 
contacts the appropriate parties for permission to show what the Confederacy 
really represented.  

            http://www.google.com/imgres?num=10&hl=en&biw=1252&bih=553&tbm=isch&tbnid=1saW5ihZa0wCNM:&imgrefurl=http://www.nps.gov/liho/historyculture/slavery.htm&docid=eRJwpL7MsegHkM&imgurl=http://www.nps.gov/liho/historyculture/images/slavery.jpg&w=295&h=340&ei=0k3_T6ecDoeh2QWpms2dBA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=391&vpy=173&dur=1&hovh=241&hovw=209&tx=97&ty=94&sig=108509628582744690057&page=1&tbnh=156&tbnw=135&start=0&ndsp=12&ved=1t:429,r:2,s:0,i:148

<image001.jpg>

            http://abagond.wordpress.com/2011/04/07/current-arguments-about-slavery/

<image002.jpg>

And, while I am exploding (but not at you) could you please let 
me and the rest of your Latah County constituency know who is responsible for 
this display.  I can’t believe that Ms. Petersen has any interest in 
glorify the pestilent-ridden sink hole of the Ol’ South.

Thanks, and I so hope I won’t to be this crabby for at least the 
rest of the summer.  

Rose Huskey

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