[Vision2020] Institute for Public Accuracy: "Media Miss the Forest for the Burning Trees"
Paul Rumelhart
godshatter at yahoo.com
Wed Jul 4 19:16:00 PDT 2012
On 07/03/2012 05:42 PM, Joe Campbell wrote:
> So, Paul, why believe that smoking causes lung disease if you don't
> believe that human carbon consumption has an impact on global warming?
>
> Joe
First, I'm not saying that carbon consumption is not having an impact on
global warming. I'm saying that the size of the impacts compared to the
more-or-less unknown natural factors is unknown and that the feedbacks
from warming in general are unknown, among other things.
There are plenty of reasons, both scientific and not, that make me
skeptical of global warming. Although everyone will assume I'm just
grasping at straws because of my deep-seated urge to deny everything
(probably has to do with my relationship with my mother), I humbly
present a smattering of them for your enjoyment:
1. On the face of it, the idea is extraordinary. Humans, even with our
vaunted civilization, are small potatoes compared to the forces of
nature. The only reason our carbon footprint even makes a dent compared
to natural forces has to do with the small amount of CO2 in our
atmosphere. We've had far less of an impact on the water cycle, for
example, or with oxygen levels. Not saying that it isn't possible, but
there is automatically a bar that has to be gotten over which smoking
causing lung disease doesn't have. It should be common sense that
inhaling smoke multiple times a day for years can have a deleterious
effect on the lungs, even without bringing in carcinogens.
2. There are some obvious questions that aren't being answered because
of the focus on human impacts. For example, what caused the earth to
heat up immediately following the Little Ice Age? If we do not know,
how can we say with any confidence that human-induced climate change is
to blame instead of the same natural processes still at work? What
causes an ice age to start, and what brings us out of one?
3. The climate is complex, with multiple feedbacks of unknown strength
and unknown feedbacks of unknown strength. The sign of the combination
of feedbacks isn't even known. Climate models cannot be that accurate,
given the above, yet they are seen as gospel. Even when they make
different assumptions and model things different ways. As long as they
project a warmer future, they are added to the model average and used as
proof that global warming will kill babies and cause frogs to rain from
the sky.
I imagine that the mechanisms for lung disease from tobacco are
relatively straight forward.
4. Some of the major players in the spotlight on the side of global
warming are environmental activists with an agenda, as opposed to being
objective scientists just following the data. For example, Timothy
Wirth (Senator from Colorado and leader of the negotiating team for the
Kyoto treaty) held a hearing on global warming at the capital. He
called the Weather Bureau to find out what day of the year was usually
the hottest in DC, and scheduled the hearing for that date. His team
then went in the night before the hearing and opened all the windows in
the room in which the hearing was to be held, causing the air
conditioning to fail to keep up with the heat. All so that it could be
hot and muggy when James Hansen gave his spiel about the dangers of
global warming.
(http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/hotpolitics/interviews/wirth.html)
The anti-tobacco campaigns, with all their sheer propaganda, do seem to
be run by political activists, but that may be coincidental.
5. Major climate scientists also appear to have political agendas.
Michael Mann and his "hockey stick" come to mind, trying to erase the
Medieval Warm Period and the Little Ice Age, using dubious statistics,
all so they could show that current warming was "unprecedented". All
this from a few bristlecone pine trees.
I haven't heard of any of these kinds of shenanigans from scientists
studying the link between tobacco use and lung diseases, probably
because the links were relatively straight forward. Not so much the
case with global warming / global climate change / global climate
disruption.
There are more, but that gives you the gist of it. But hey, it's just
me being contrarian, right? So please, move along. Nothing to see here.
Paul
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