[Vision2020] Budget cuts could slash $1B from vets health care

[Joe Campbell]

Fair enough



On Jan 4, 2012, at 1:58 AM, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> It was meant to be an ironic question, Joe. : ) But I don't have an beliefs, I just go with the facts as I see them. : P.
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> Donovan Arnold
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> From: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
> To: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> 
> Cc: Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com>; "vision2020 at moscow.com" <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 10:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Budget cuts could slash $1B from vets health care
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> How can you have a belief without having a philosophy? So you're really asking, what is the logic in keeping beliefs?
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> On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Joe,
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> What's the logic in keeping Philosophy?
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> Donovan Arnold
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> From: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
> To: Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com> 
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 7:25 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Budget cuts could slash $1B from vets health care
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> Not just the military would appreciate you Sue! 
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> All of us in eduction -- especially higher ed -- are asked to do the same. Imagine the luck I'll have in raising money for Philosophy! Nonetheless, those are the cards with which we are dealt. I've always seen my challenge as trying to explain why Philosophy is relevant -- not that I've been successful at it yet. 
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> Things have not changed too much. What is significant is the thought that we might lose philosophy if the public doesn't see it as relevant. That we've worked ourselves to that very point is worrisome. What next? The arts? Still, no more worrisome than other recent threats to education. 
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> Best, Joe
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> On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com> wrote:
> My absolutely least favorite thing about being a teacher was raising all that money to buy transportation for kids to go to activities such as Debate and Knowledge Bowl, Future Problem Solving, etc.  I got to be an expert, and Moscow parents and school district patrons were very generous.  Perhaps the  military could use my skills.
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> Sue H.
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> From: keely emerinemix
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 2:01 PM
> To: dickow at turbonet.com ; vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Budget cuts could slash $1B from vets health care
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> I spent most of the 1970s sporting a pin that said "Wouldn't it be a great day if schools had the money they needed and the Air Force had to hold a bake sale to buy a new bomber?"  A woman can dream, can't she?
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> No, Paul -- The only answer isn't to cut spending.  Cutting waste, bloat, and fraud -- yes.  But vital human services are just that, vital, and are part of not just a social safety net, but a contract between taxpayers and the government to whom they pay those taxes.  To a large extent, infrastructure maintenance and additions are, too.  Cutting spending in areas and on projects left wallowing because of the eight years of horror that was the Bush administration -- eight years that took us from surplus to debt by waging two wars while slashing tax revenues -- is penny wise and pound foolish.  Ronald Reagan, who raised taxes several times during his administration, also took the richest Americans from a 70 percent income tax to a level half that.  No one wants to go to 70 percent again, but today's pledge-signing GOP wants to give away the farm.  No reasonable person believes that the debt can be addressed without asking those who most  benefit both from the liberties preserved by those wars as well as from the tax policies currently in hand to pay a reasonable percentage of their income.  It seems beyond belief that the GOP also believes that overseas profits made by U.S.  corporations should be off-limits as well.  I'd love to slash welfare programs and actually RAISE revenue -- that is, do away with policies that coddle the superwealthy and spend wisely the revenue that that attracts.  But don't penalize veterans, students, the elderly, the sick, the unemployed and the already-struggling.  And don't "penalize" the rich -- just respect the needs of the citizenry by asking that they do what the rest of us have to.  
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> Let's assume that good Americans ought to face taxation that's fair, proportional, reasonable and brings in revenue that's spent wisely, building our nation and not tearing down others.  That would seem to be neither a Democratic nor a Republican position -- just a solid, fair, strong and pro-American one.
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> Keely
> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
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> From: dickow at turbonet.com
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 12:27:30 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Budget cuts could slash $1B from vets health care
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> Another solution is the take in more revenue to offset expenses. Since increased  taxation seems to be a dirty word, how about car washes and bake sales? We have do it at the community level, in schools, etc, why not the Fed? Shouldn’t the government have a PayPal ‘Donate Now’ button on their website?
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> Bob Dickow, troublemaker
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> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Paul Rumelhart
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> The simple fact is that we are spending more than we are taking in.  The simplest solution is to stop spending so much.
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> Paul
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