[Vision2020] PR - Council Committee to Discuss OvernightParking in Downtown
Donovan Arnold
donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Fri Feb 10 19:31:42 PST 2012
Wayne,
I disagree, they solve the many problems of the advantaged all the time, like having to pay taxes to support Medicaid and education.
Donovan Arnold
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From: Art Deco <art.deco.studios at gmail.com>
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] PR - Council Committee to Discuss OvernightParking in Downtown
Donovan writes:
"If you are waiting for Idaho politicians to solve your problems, you are going to be waiting a long, long time."
The current Idaho legislature excels at creating problems, not solving them.
w.
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 4:27 AM, Dan Carscallen <areaman at moscow.com> wrote:
Donovan,
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>There's this thing called "street maintenance"
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>DC
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>On Feb 9, 2012, at 21:20, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>Wayne,
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>>I simply think it is an easy money maker for the City. The concern for downtown businesses is just an excuse for an easy making of the ticketing quotas. There is no reason someone cannot park downtown from 2am till businesses open the next day and be harming anyone financially except the city that can be making money off those car's overnight stay.
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>>Donovan Arnold
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>> From: Art Deco <art.deco.studios at gmail.com>
>>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2012 9:56 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] PR - Council Committee to Discuss OvernightParking in Downtown
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>>I guess I am really still missing something.
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>>Let's say that the ostensible public policy of Moscow is to provide on street parking during normal business hours for the downtown business customers..
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>>So then allow 2 hour parking in a given area from 9 to 6, Mon - Sat. So any vehicle parked in the area before or at 9 and still there after 11 would be eligible for a parking ticket. Why is there a need to prohibit parking otherwise?
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>>If some leaves there car overnight and retrieves it before 11, what harm is done? If it is still there after 11, it is eligible for a ticket like anyone else. Remember those parking overnight are also customers of downtown businesses, to wit, the bars, etc.
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>>If parking for downtown business customers is really the policy, why can people purchase all day parking permits in the city parking lots?
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>>The real truth is that parking policy favors the privileged: those that can pay. It has been my observation that a lot of downtown parking is used by business owners and employees. Why are these people more important than others such as those that wish to be responsible by not driving when impaired?
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>>How much money and time is being wasted enforcing the no overnight parking ban?
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>>w.
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>>On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Wayne Price <bear at moscow.com> wrote:
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>>Does this mean that since the city STILL hasn't plowed the street I park on since the last snow storm (it melted thank god!) does this mean I can now park on one of the downtown streets that DO
>>>get plowed over and over, on a regular basis when it snows?
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>>>Has everyone else gotten the card hung on their door by the city outlining which streets are involved? It shows an OVAL area, not a rectangle, and only covers "half" blocks in some areas.
>>>So only the parts of the streets are involved?
>>>
>>>THANK GOD the November elections aren't that far away!
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>>>On Feb 9, 2012, at 8:08 PM, Craine Kit wrote:
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>>>Downtown residents claiming space for permanent storage of their vehicles, thereby decreasing the supply of spaces for customers of downtown businesses.
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>>>>Kit Craine
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>>>>On Feb 9, 2012, at 7:25 PM, Art Deco wrote:
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>>>>I'm afraid I missed something. What great harm is done by allowing overnight parking?
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>>>>>w.
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>>>>>On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 6:50 PM, Janesta <janesta at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>Way back in the day, and no, I'm NOT telling you all how far back in the day.
>>>>>
>>>>>*laugh*
>>>>>
>>>>>Anyway, when we went to the Capricorn, we would park a couple of blocks off Main Street PRIOR to going into the club.
>>>>>
>>>>>My kids got a few tickets, then they wised up, and walked... My son used to say there is no place in Moscow too far to walk to, or, home from.
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>>>>>Perhaps some signs saying "don't drink and drive" on the same post which state the parking hours is in order.
>>>>>
>>>>>Janesta
>>>>>Idaho Snow Bird
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>>>>>On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:52 PM, deb <debismith at moscow.com> wrote:
>>>>>A few years (well, quite a few years) ago, we were celebrating our anniversary and called a friend to drive us home, leaving our car parked off Main near Mingles. We got a ticket, naturally. Wondered what the incentive to find a ride might be for an inebriated younger person who didn't want to pay a parking ticket and didn't have the experience/age to really understand the consequences of DUI...
>>>>>Debi R-S
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: Tom Hansen
>>>>>To: Stephanie Kalasz
>>>>>Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 1:37 PM
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] PR - Council Committee to Discuss OvernightParking in Downtown
>>>>>
>>>>>One question concerning overnight parking on Main Street that has been discussed here on the Viz that should be brought before the PWF Committee . . .
>>>>>
>>>>>What options are there for somebody, parked on Main Street, who (late in the evening) decides they have had too much to drink . . . and drive? Would they be legally permitted to leave their vehicle parked on Main Street overnight?
>>>>>
>>>>>Seeya later, Moscow.
>>>>>
>>>>>Tom Hansen
>>>>>Post Falls, Idaho
>>>>>
>>>>>"If not us, who?
>>>>>If not now, when?"
>>>>>
>>>>>- Unknown
>>>>>
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>>>>>On Feb 9, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Stephanie Kalasz <skalasz at ci.moscow.id.us> wrote:
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>>>>>City of Moscow
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>>>>>>206 E Third Street
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>>>>>>Moscow, ID 83843
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>>>>>>Contact: Gary J. Riedner, City Supervisor
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>>>>>>p | 208-883-7006
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>>>>>>e | griedner at ci.moscow.id.us
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>>>>>>w | www.ci.moscow.id.us
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>>>>>>PRESS RELEASE
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>>>>>>Overnight Parking Restrictions on Main Street to be discussed by Council Committee
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>>>>>>February 9, 2012 (Moscow, Idaho) – The City of Moscow Public Works/Finance Committee will be reviewing overnight parking restrictions in the downtown area on February 13, at 3 p.m. in City Hall Council Chambers at 206 E Third Street. The area to be discussed includes Washington, Jackson, and Main Streets from First to Eighth Street in the downtown core. A request has been brought to the Council to reduce the overnight parking restrictions to accommodate business access primarily in the early morning hours of the current parking restrictions.
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>>>>>>A map of the area to be reviewed is posted on the City of Moscow’s website at www.ci.moscow.id.us. For more information please call Gary Riedner, City Supervisor at 208-883-7006. To submit public comment on the issues, please email Stephanie Kalasz, City Clerk at skalasz at ci.moscow.id.us.
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>>>>>>Story Contact: Gary J. Riedner, City Supervisor
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>>>>>>Phone: 208.883.7006
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>>>>>>Email: griedner at ci.moscow.id.us
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>>>>>>The City of Moscow delivers quality municipal services while ensuring responsible use of resources.
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>>>>>>We anticipate and meet the needs of our diverse population in order to build public trust and enhance a sense of community.
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