[Vision2020] Huh?

lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
Wed Feb 1 10:13:42 PST 2012


I did not say that it was ok, it wasn't. That is just the way it was. Your last statement on Jefferson and Madison is correct.
Roger
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From: Donovan Arnold donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 21:28:15 -0800
To: lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com,  Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com, Moscow Vision 2020 vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Huh?

> Roger asks, "And just what is wrong with that statement? The economy of the south was built on slavery."
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> The same argument could be made for societies with concentration work camps. No society is deserving of an existent or economy that strips innocent members of its community of all rights and personhood. 
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> And continues with. . .
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>  "Why do you think that Washington waited until he died to free his slaves in his will."
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> Actually, Roger, he didn't free them because they were owned by his wife, Martha. He  willed his wife to free them after her death so she was not abandoned. Martha Washington freed the slaves before her death because the slaves knew the moment she died they were free; as one could imagine the feeling of slaves waiting in anticipation for her death and their freedom made her uncomfortable. 
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> Also stated:
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> " It is also why Jefferson and Madison made an exception to their other wise freedom for all views."
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> Actually, they did so because the Constitution would not be ratified by enough states to pass. They felt this issue needed to be secondary to first establishing the Union, fighting the British, and forming a new government. They left the issue to be resolved to future generations, with bloody consequences. 
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> Donovan Arnold
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>  From: lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com>
> To: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>; Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 1:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Huh?
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> And just what is wrong with that statement? The economy of the south was built on slavery. Why do you think that Washington waited until he died to free his slaves in his will. It is also why Jefferson and Madison made an exception to their other wise freedom for all views.
> Roger
> -----Original message-----
> From: Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com
> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:39:19 -0800
> To: Moscow Vision 2020 vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: [Vision2020] Huh?
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> > "Slavery is of course portrayed in the textbooks nowadays I'm sure as a totally negative thing. Had there not been slavery in the south, the economy would've fallen."
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> > - Tea Party Activist Brian Rieck (January 27, 2012)
> > http://www.wbir.com/news/article/202678/2/Groups-asking-TN-lawmakers-to-re-write-how-to-teach-slavery
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> > Seeya later, Moscow.
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> > Tom Hansen
> > Post Falls, Idaho
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> > "If not us, who?
> > If not now, when?"
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> > - Unknown
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