[Vision2020] Huh?
Saundra Lund
v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm
Fri Dec 21 21:54:12 PST 2012
Why do you expect more from Tom than you do of the NRA? Did you listen
to their drivel today?! Do you not find it more objectionable for a
national lobbying organization like the NRA with actual political power
to "distract from identifying the actual problems and putting forth
realistic solutions" than you for someone to do so on a community
listserve? If not, why not? Sad.
Quite frankly, the current NRA deserves to be demonized because they
became part of the problem rather than part of the solution at some
point. As I've mentioned several times before, most of my family
members -- including those in the military and law enforcement -- were
life-long NRA members until the NRA went completly 'round the bend.
Now, not a single one continues to support the NRA although all have
remained gun enthusiasts. They continue to lament the destruction of a
formerly great (in their opinions) organization.
If you've not already done so, I highly recommend reading "Ricochet:
Confessions of a Gun Lobbyist" by Richard Feldman.
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012, at 09:31 PM, Scott Dredge wrote:
Thanks for demonstrating all by your lonesome, Tom, why absolutely
nothing will change to the status quo. But by all means, continue
trying and failing to demonize the NRA further especially since there
is no more room for them become more hated by people like you who are
so easily distracted from identifying the actual problems and putting
forth realistic solutions. Sad.
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From: thansen at moscow.com
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 21:06:01 -0800
To: v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm
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Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Huh?
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Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .
"Moscow Cares"
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Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho
On Dec 21, 2012, at 8:18 PM, "Saundra Lund" <[2]v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm>
wrote:
It worked soo well at Columbine, didn’t it?
Confrontation by the armed officer on campus & the exchange of fire
drove one of the shooters back into the school to continue the
slaughter. There’s a stellar success!
Oops – but don’t confuse you with reality & facts, right?
Saundra
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[[4]mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Gary Crabtree
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 1:40 PM
To: Joe Campbell
Cc: viz
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Huh?
Training to become a cop in Idaho is 10 weeks making time not much of
an issue. There are quite a few things covered in POST that a school
guard would not need training in (pursuit driving, crime scene
investigation, etc. ) further reducing the time needed to get qualified
people in place. Utilizing vets who were MP's or members of security
detachments along with retired police officers would be prime
candidates for positions such as this.
All entry doors in a facility could be easily modified to emergency
exit only except for one. This would make it so all visitors would be
funneled through one door and past one armed guard.
I really don't see what make this idea so unworkable other then the
fact that it doesn't jibe very well with the anti-gun agenda.
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On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Joe Campbell
<[5]philosopher.joe at gmail.com> wrote:
Scott,
There was an Assistant Director of the FBI on CNN today explaining why
this cannot be implemented. Think of the training required before you
release folks with guns onto school campuses. Then think of the number
of schools, the number of doors to the school that would need to be
guarded, the costs of training and hiring an education militia, and the
number of qualified people available for those positions. This is a bad
idea that does not stand a chance of getting passed. Forget about it
and move on to some actual solution.
Best, Joe
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Scott Dredge
<[6]scooterd408 at hotmail.com> wrote:
Armed security is something that could be implemented, regulated, and
enforced much more easily than gun control, gun bans, etc. Armed
security guards could be subjected to more rigorous background and
mental heath checks plus mandatory training and licensing without
having that pesky 2nd Amendment coming into the mix. Somewhat similar
to how we supposedly have air marshalls on some flights. This might be
one of the very few things that the Republicans would actually be OK to
put on the fragile shoulders of tax paying individuals and businesses.
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From: [7]thansen at moscow.com
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 09:36:59 -0800
To: [8]vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: [Vision2020] Huh?
"Before Congress reconvenes, before we engage in any lengthy debate
over legislation, regulation or anything else, as soon as our kids
return to school after the holiday break, we need to have every single
school in America immediately deploy a protection program proven to
work — and by that I mean armed security."
- Wayne LaPierre, Executive Vice President of the National Rifle
Association (December 21, 2012)
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