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[Saundra Lund]

Since Paul's not here to be the knee-jerk nanny, I'll step in.

 

Talk about a knee-jerk reaction!  Only the NRA's suggestion supported by
Scott & Wayne P & Gary Crabtree adds a layer of lunacy to the real knee-jerk
reaction and further ups the ante with an unhealthy dollop of a
three-year-old's sticking his fingers in his ears to keep from having to
acknowledge and address facts and reality rather than continuing to advocate
fantasy and political agendas.

 

First, you can't coherently make the argument that on the one hand, if
someone is intent on violence, they'll find a way to do it with or without
guns (a la Wayne Price's stupid hammer post), so common-sense gun regulation
won't stop them, and then blow hot air on the other hand that the way to
prevent violence at schools is to put guns in school.  Clearly those making
the suggestion aren't particularly adept at critical thinking and logical
coherence!

 

Second, a pretty solid argument can be made that the presence of guns in
schools might attract more of these shooters.  Maybe they are looking for
suicide by cop, or maybe they'll just want to prove their extraordinary evil
prowess by "taking out" the armed rent-a-pig first.  Besides, people bent on
violence neeevvveeerrr target those they expect to be armed, do they??  No,
of course not!  All the drug-related shootings - and shoot-outs - expected
the battle to be one-sided.  Suurree.  Jason Hamilton attacked the Sheriff's
Department expecting it to be unarmed, right?  Prisons & jails with
corrections personnel are expected to have nothing to defend their walls
other than their words.  Yuppers.  Military groups are expected to be
completely unarmed.  Uh-huh.  It's total nonsense to expect anyone with a
functioning brain to swallow the lunacy that having guns in schools will
prevent either the evil or the unbalanced from targeting schools.

 

Third, and perhaps more importantly is the following.  And, I'll preface
this part by saying that I mean absolutely no disrespect to the trained law
enforcement personnel who were first on the scene and in the school.  They
performed admirably under unspeakably  difficult circumstances.

 

But, the fact of the matter is that the presence of armed officers in the
school didn't stop the shooter, which is an excellent example of the
absolute stupidity of the NRA's propaganda.

 

"The first police officer on the scene was confronted by the glass window
that Lanza had shot his way through to get past the locked door. The officer
advanced into the school and saw the gunman, from a great distance down a
long hallway, perhaps a couple of hundred feet. The gunman, dressed all in
black, spotted the officer and ducked into a room off the hallway. As the
officer, now joined by a partner began to rush down the hall toward the
gunman they heard a volley of shots. When they got there, they found the
gunman, dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. Just beyond the gunman, in
a classroom, children huddled together, and their teacher, all of them shot
multiple times. Nearby, in a bathroom another group of children, huddled
together, all shot multiple times. It appears that the gunman let go a last
volley of shots at his victims before killing himself with a single bullet
to the head."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57559442/the-brief-enigmatic-life-of-mas
s-murderer-adam-lanza/

 

But maybe . . . just maybe . . . had the shooter not been using a
high-capacity magazine, not all in that last classroom would have been
slaughtered before LE was able to even make it to the classroom door.

 

And that very real possibility completely blows out of the water the crazy
NRA & its fanatical followers' insane suggestion.

 

 

 

Saundra

Moscow, ID

 

To care for anyone else enough to make their problems one's own, is ever the
beginning of one's real ethical development.

~ Felix Adler

 

 

 

 

From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Wayne Price
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 10:43 AM
To: Scott Dredge
Cc: viz
Subject: [Vision2020] Pay to Play?

 

I agree that the "security" in schools are a good idea, and it will make
jobs available to qualified veterans, so it's a two-fer!

The various state legislatures can pass the necessary legislation  and it
can be in place within weeks, IF the states so decide.

 

 

 

On Dec 21, 2012, at 10:29 AM, Scott Dredge wrote:





Armed security is something that could be implemented, regulated, and
enforced much more easily than gun control, gun bans, etc.  Armed security
guards could be subjected to more rigorous background and mental heath
checks plus mandatory training and licensing without having that pesky 2nd
Amendment coming into the mix.  Somewhat similar to how we supposedly have
air marshalls on some flights.  This might be one of the very few things
that the Republicans would actually be OK to put on the fragile shoulders of
tax paying individuals and businesses.

 

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