[Vision2020] Award Well-Deserved

[Donovan Arnold]

The Nazis didn't follow the law when executing their duties as a solider. The Nazi solider was not following higher orders and oath as a solider to never follow illegal direction to slaughter his own people by the millions without cause or trial, violate international law, and purposefully insight war, destruction and death upon his country and its people. 
 
The truck drivers followed all laws, local, state, federal and international. They were doing their jobs, following legal orders and following the law. They committed no act against which society as a majority disagreed with legal authority.
 
The difference is that the words of the Nazis were false and had deadly consequences, and the words of the truck driver were true and had no deadly consequences, an important distinction.
 
Donovan Arnold

From: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
To: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> 
Cc: Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Award Well-Deserved


This is totally misguided, Paul. Maybe you're right that there is a difference between the two. That doesn't make the truck driver's excuse that he's "just doing my job" any more valid. It is still a A BAD excuse on his part; the analogy shows that. Doesn't work for the Nazi guard, doesn't work for the truck driver. It is a bad excuse. Sorry. Joe




On Apr 27, 2012, at 1:15 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:



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>The difference between the Auschwitz guard and the megaload truck driver is the simple fact that the guard personally does illegal and immoral things and the truck driver is just driving a truck.  Every time the guard beats a prisoner for not working fast enough or shoots one trying to escape, they have just committed an act that they know is wrong and are justifying it however they want to to sleep better at night.  The truck driver is just putting on his blinker, down-shifting, and turning left.  That's why I think these protests are misguided.  Find the guy that *is* responsible for running the fracking operation and complain to him or her.
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>Paul
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>From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
>To: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com> 
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>Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 8:55 AM
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Award Well-Deserved
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>Mr. Arnold -
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>Basic Logic 101
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>"it was just my job" = "I was just following orders"
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>The quote on the left was the repeated response, given by management (as well as drivers), to the question "Why?" repeatedly during the past year or so, as the megaloads marauded their way up US95.
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>The quote on the right was the repeated response to the question "Why?" repeatedly during the Nurnberg trials, by those defendants charged with crimes against humanity.
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>Seeya round town, Moscow.
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>Tom Hansen
>Moscow, Idaho
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>"If not us, who?
>If not now, when?"
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>- Unknown
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>On Apr 27, 2012, at 8:44, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com> wrote:
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>"it was just my job"
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