[Vision2020] Say What? (and more)

Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Mon Jan 24 16:03:50 PST 2011


He forgets that some of the shooters are insane.



On Jan 24, 2011, at 5:22 AM, "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:

> "If I had a town meeting and was still in Congress, I'd invite all the
> Texans who have a concealed weapons license to my town meeting and I'd
> advertise it. Because the person who wanted to come shoot me would have to
> think once again about committing suicide walking into my town hall
> meeting."
> 
> - Former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay
> http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2011/01/14/
> 
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> 
> Perhaps they can all stop by and take advantage of Wal-Mart's . . .
> 
> "Saturday Nigh Special"
> http://www.TomandRodna.com/WalMartSpecial.mp3
> 
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> 
> Courtesy of today's (January 24, 2011) Moscow-Pullman Daily News.
> 
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> 
> Two dead in Port Orchard Walmart shooting
> 2 deputies hurt; same-day Detroit shooting wounds 4
> 
> [org]Associated Press[/org]
> January 24, 2011
> 
> PORT ORCHARD, Wash. - A shootout in front of a Walmart in Washington state
> left two people dead and two sheriff's deputies wounded Sunday afternoon,
> a sheriff's spokesman said.
> 
> One of the dead was a man who shot at deputies, said Scott Wilson of the
> Kitsap County Sheriff's Office. The other victim was a young woman who
> died after she was taken to a Tacoma hospital, he said.
> 
> The deputies' wounds did not appear life-threatening, Wilson said.
> 
> Details were sketchy Sunday evening, but the sheriff's office received a
> call about a suspicious person at the store in Port Orchard, Wilson said.
> The man ran and started shooting when three deputies tried to talk to him,
> he said.
> 
> The deputies, including the two men who were wounded, returned fire,
> Wilson said.
> 
> Witness Ray Bourge told KOMO-TV that he saw a man running through the
> parking lot toward nearby woods, firing his gun back toward the store.
> 
> "Right behind him there was an officer chasing him, and he began to open
> fire," Bourge said.
> 
> The officer was about 30 to 40 feet behind the suspect when he started
> firing, Bourge said.
> 
> "Five or six shots were fired. ... I just went and took cover," he said.
> 
> Witness Victor Meyers told KOMO-TV that he heard the first shot, then six
> more in rapid succession.
> 
> "I heard one shot, which I thought was a car backfiring, and then several
> more reported back, which I knew to be gunfire," Meyers said.
> 
> He said he saw a female deputy running toward a victim on the ground
> before he and other witnesses were hustled from the scene.
> 
> The man who ran from the deputies died of his wounds in the parking lot,
> Wilson said.
> 
> "In the first five minutes, there was already 12 police cars there and
> then ambulances came just as fast," witness Zach Mendiola told KING-TV.
> 
> Wilson said no other suspects were involved in the incident, which began
> at about 3:45 p.m. He didn't know whether the woman and the man who were
> killed knew each other. Those two haven't been identified and the
> deputies' names haven't been released.
> 
> The store was immediately locked down. Customers in the store were being
> allowed to leave after investigators questioned them, and the store closed
> for the night, Wilson said.
> 
> The investigation "is real basic right now," he said, adding that officers
> don't know why the man fled and began firing.
> 
> "The big question of why is unanswered now," he said.
> 
> The Washington state incident wasn't the only attack against deputies
> Sunday. A gunman opened fire inside a Detroit police precinct, wounding
> four officers including a commander before he was shot and killed by
> police, authorities said. The gunman walked in through the precinct's
> revolving door around 4:20 p.m. with a pistol grip shotgun and opened
> fire, Sgt. Todd Eby, who was sitting at his desk in the precinct at the
> time of the shooting, told the Detroit Free Press. He said officers shot
> back at the gunman, killing him.
> 
> "Utter chaos and pandemonium took place," Police Chief Ralph Godbee said
> at a news conference. "We have a number of officers who are shaken up."
> 
> Godbee said the gunman has been identified but it was "too early to
> characterize" him while the investigation was ongoing.
> 
> The chief said along with the commander, two sergeants and an officer were
> wounded, but none appeared to have life threatening injuries.
> 
> The commander, who was shot in the back, appeared to be the most seriously
> wounded. Godbee said he underwent surgery Sunday evening and his prognosis
> was "very good." A sergeant and an officer who each suffered graze gunshot
> wounds to the head were both talking and alert, Godbee said.
> 
> A female sergeant also was treated and released after her bullet-resistant
> vest deflected a bullet to the chest, Godbee said.
> 
> Police also did not immediately release the names of the wounded officers,
> saying families had not been notified in all cases.
> 
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> 
> Yep.  That's what we need.  More guns on the street.
> 
> Seeya round town, Moscow, and leave your Glocks at home (Moscow would love
> you if you did).
> 
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
> 
> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to change
> and the Realist adjusts his sails."
> 
> - Unknown
> 
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